OK… this is NOT, I repeat NOT my personal opinion, but a very good friend of mine believes the following:
Homosexuality is the active promotion of human extinction.
Any thoughts?
Considering that one of the principal dangers facing humankind is death by overpopulation, I hardly think your friend needs to worry about those of us who would rather watch Madonna videos than reproduce ourselves.
BTW, recent evidence has show homosexual behavior in giraffes, and they’re still around. In fact, the only thing making them extinct is us. I wish I could provide the exact reference, but the best I can do is that it was discussed in Natl Geo about a year back, for what it’s worth. If you want more, I can poke around.
You know what really bugs me about this? It assumes that homosexuals want to convert some hetrosexuals and that they can convert some. Then, it extends this false premise from someto *all.*Your friend has taken a false premise (Homosexuals actively recruite hetrosexuals) to its absurd conclusion.
I agree with matt_mcl. The human race is hardly in danger of extintion.
Well, considering that current population projections indicate that the world population will reach 7 billion in the next twenty years, I don’t see our extinction happening, or at least not because of homosexuality. Also, many homosexuals seek to reproduce and raise children through artifical insemination or surrogates. So homosexuality does not automatically erase the urge to pass genes along.
Besides, Dr. Matrix is right. Homosexuality is not contagious. Ask any homosexual and they will tell you that the roots of their sexuality are in their childhood and not because of any recruitment efforts.
Ask your friend if he’d find homosexuality that attractive an option. If not, then hey, at least mankind has him willing to spread his seed if our our ranks get kinda thin.
Or perhaps, does he mean that homosexuality will disrupt societies so badly that we will die out?
the book How They Do It (I’ve forgotten the author) notes that homesexual behavior occurs even in bedbugs. Since homosexual behavior has been noted in so many species, it does not follow that it leads to extinction.
SUV owners on the other hand are contributing to human extinction. Consider how SUV’s guzzle gas and what this does to our environment.
Wow, there are so many logical errors here . . . let’s count some of them, shall we?
Don’t Melissa Etheridge and Julie Cypher have two kids, or did I imagine that?
No it isn’t. Human population is increasing, but at a decreasing rate, and in some places population is reproducing below the replacement rate. Population may begin dectreasing, due entirely to voluntarily curbing reproduction rather than to die-offs or famine.
Well, it depends on how you mean death by overpopulation–7 billion people on earth screw up the environment a lot more than 4 billion. But yeah, the current trend is leveling off…
I’ve always wondered if it’d be possible to really over-populate ourselves into extinction. I mean, our population would outgrow the resources, we’d die off in droves, but once our population reaches a much more reasonable level, we’d begin to recover, wouldn’t we?
If it is then it isn’t a very effective way of causing extinction; being that homosexuality has been around since the beginning of mankind (or at the very least, since the founding of ancient civilizations).
Myrr:
Oh? If you look at sheer numbers, I can see how you would come to that conclusion, but you’re discounting the technological advances made during the time human population rose from 4 to 7 billion. The worldwide standard of living is higher, infant mortality is lower, fewer people are starving, livespan worldwide has increased, hydrocarbons are decreasing, air pollution is lessening . . .
As for the OP, in order for homosexuality to be “the active promotion of human extinction” it would first have to be, well, active. Duh. And I’ll immediately eat your hat if you find ANYONE who is gay for the purpose of not breeding.
Secondly, for homosexuality to mean human extinction, it would mean the cessation of all desire to raise children. Huh. Phil menitoned Melissa Etheridge. And Dan Savage. And the thousands of gays who have been kept from adopting becayse of their orientation. Yup, all them gays hate kids, alright.
And finally, the world would get along just fine if humans went extinct. I’m over it.
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That was Hitler’s theory, too. But he only cared about propegating the “Aryan race”.
There is actually a theory out there supported by uncited important scientists that homosexuality occurs naturally to aleive overpopulation. So it’d actually be quite the opposite.
Your friend sounds like he’s trying to justify his homophobia .
Does he/she have other beliefs about Homosexuality ?
All righty, Madhatter (I like the name, by the way), here’s what you tell your friend, to make it all simple…
Homosexuality is a guy liking guys (or girl liking girls, if you wanna be anal- no pun intended- about it).
It’s tha-a-a-a-a-a-a-at simple 
The question of what function homosexuality plays in human evolution is one that has been raised. There are those who suggest that those who are unburdened by children of their own are available to benefit the tribe, or the human race in other ways. The far-above-proportionality presence of gay/lesbian artists would seem to help bear this out. I think Matt_mcl poted a very useful link to a site discussing this in a long-dead thread; he may be able to resurrect it, if my memory is correct.
Phil said:
Well, “they got by with a little help from their friends.” 
BTW, didja ever wonder what runs through their minds when they hear “Teach Your Children Well”? 
And that was before in vitro fertilization!
Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
V: BUUUURN!!! BUUUUUURRRRNN!!! You BURN them!!! BURN!!
Bedevere: And what do you burn apart from witches?
Villager: More Witches!
Other Villager: Wood.
Bedevere: So. Why do witches burn?
Villager: (tentatively) Because they’re made of…wood?
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Other Villagers: oh yeah… oh…
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(when order is restored)
Bedevere: What also floats in water?
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Bedevere: (to a villager) So, logically…
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> In light of the recent shooting in Florida: >
> Let’s see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O’Hare complained she
> didn’t want any prayer in our schools. And we said OK.
>
> Then someone said, you better not read the Bible in school, the Bible
that > says thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, and love your
neighbor as > yourself. And we said, OK.
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> Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn’t spank our children when they
> misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we
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> they’re going to do it anyway, let’s give our sons all the condoms they
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> their parents they got them at school. And we said, that’s another great
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> don’t know right from wrong, and why it doesn’t bother them to kill
> strangers, their classmates, their teachers, and themselves. Probably, if
> we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it
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> Sincerely, Concerned Student
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DrMatrix wrote:
Well, I have SSA (Same-Sex Attraction), and some homosexuals on this very board sure tried to keep me away from my fiancee on the grounds that I was gay and that it was morally wrong for me to date/marry someone of the opposite sex. Based on my experience here, SOME homosexuals DO actively seek to keep homos homo and away from women. I don’t know if you can count that as “recruiting,” but it was sure like they were trying to destroy a good thing (my upcoming marriage to a beautiful woman) in the name of their agenda.
I’m not saying ALL homosexuals do this, BTW, but some tried. Classic example of not wanting others who share your misery to escape while you remain in sadness.
I was around for that whole mess, and while Esprix should have kept his big bazoo shut on the issue, he wasn’t trying to keep you ‘homo’. He was worried that trying to use marriage as a cure for homosexuality was a bad idea; again, it was none of his business. Whatever arrangement you and Vanilla come up with is your business, and nobody has the right to tell you what you ought to feel.
I believe that a small number of people are exclusively straight and an equally small number of people are exclusively gay(I’m one) and most people fall somewhere in between. You can have sexual leanings to both genders, but there is no choice in having the attraction. Either you feel it, or you don’t.
As a lifelong gay guy, I can tell you there is no such thing as a homosexual agenda. (However we do have a fabulous secret handshake!)
Golly, Snark!
I’m sure you’ll be rebuked for this much more competently than I can manage; but I will just point out that warning somebody about the potential problems involved in the marriage of a homosexual or bisexual man to a heterosexual woman, though it may be intrusive or inappropriate or inaccurate, is not the same as “recruiting for gaydom.” And characterizing it as a case of “misery loves company” is bound to be extremely offensive to many if not all of the homosexuals here, who are not at all miserable about their sexual orientation, thank you very much.
Still, if you felt picked-on about this very personal issue then I can sympathize, and allowances should be made. (You’re gonna need 'em…“remain in sadness,” what a crack.)