We had a hot student teacher my senior year. Every so often one of the guys in class would say something crass or laden with innuendo. I remember once or twice she responded back with a flirty line like, “Really, John? Why don’t you stay after class and tell me more?”
John would duck out of the class like a flash when the bell rang and keep his mouth shut for a few days. I would wager that’s how a lot of normal teenaged boys would respond. A guy who took it a step further wouldn’t be all there emotionally, I’d think.
I think a lot of guys are juxtaposing their twenty- or thirty- or forty-something year old selves on the psyche of their 14-17 year selves. You were probably a lot less sure of yourself at that age, if you’re being completely honest. You weren’t that smooth. You probably weren’t as adept about dealing with a sexually aggressive woman as you might be now. Couple this with the fact that your teachers talked about you with other teachers in the staff lounge, I’ve got a strong inkling that even the boldest high school guy would be a little freaked out by an authority figure like a teacher, with significant ability to jack up your life (like claiming you assaulted her, or flunking you), decided to take a shine to you.
I’m not some prude, either. I found a lot of my teachers hot, in a MILF-y way mostly. But even when a teacher offered me a ride home, or I stayed at the home of a teacher (with a bunch of other kids) it definitely cooled my jets. Fantasy is fun, because you’re always in control. When it plays out in real life it’s nowhere near as enjoyable.
Perhaps it was just where I grew up in West Texas, but I certainly would not have labelled my fellow male high-school students “emotionally fragile.” “Neanderthal-like,” certainly. The ones who were not committing border-line felonies for fun on weekends were off with the Hispanic hookers.
OK, I’ll meet you on agree to disagree. This thread has drifted a bit afield from the OP anyway. Maybe this would be better served in a thread of it’s own because I feel we are arguing apples and oranges.
In my high school, it was a pretty well known, accepted and common practice for “good” girls to give oral sex to their boyfriends for two main reasons. It kept their virginity intact while still allowing them to keep their boyfriends among the girls not so discriminating. And protected against pregnancy.
Once, in the band lab (a main hall with lots of side practice rooms) A fairly popular girl was in one of the private rooms with her boyfriend while the teacher was out. We all expected they were in there kissing until someone opened the door on them. She was on her knees doing what almost every other girl who witnessed them does except not in that situation.
She went on to pick up some unflattering names and suffered such taunting throughout the year she eventually transfered away to another school.
The guy went through the rest of the school years normally and uneventfully. Anonymously even.
My point is not (and has never been) that girls don’t like or have sex. Of course they do even young teens. But the circumstances do certainly dictate when and where a lot more than they do for guys. Extraordinary circumstances when outed can cause much more emotion trauma for the girl than the guy. Sleeping with teachers is a case in point.
Again, I’ll agree to disagree but, to me, it’s obvious that girls are pickier, more selective and more emotional than guys.
In my high school, half the girls were having sex. Two of my friends got pregnant junior year; one had an abortion, the other gave her child up for adoption. The pregnancy was seen as a bit scandalous, but I don’t recall anyone else getting a hard time about having sex.
We had a very attractive drama teacher and a lot of the girls had crushes on him. If anyone had actually screwed him, I’m sure she would have been viewed with great envy. His job must have been very difficult, because some of the girls were not subtle about their desires.
Thus, the plural of anecdote is not data. Your experiences tell you one thing; mine tell me another.
Before you say things like “large majority,” you need to look at circumstances and differences in the posts more closely.
As a guy, if a 30-year-old teacher had molested me at age 12, it would have screwed me up pretty badly. There’s no way on Earth that would have been a positive experience.
On the other hand, when I was 18, if a 23-year-old girl fresh out of school with the ink still wet on her teaching credential had seduced me, that would have been pretty awesome.
I think that almost everybody shares that feeling (you may have to adjust ages a bit to reach universal agreement). Where we differ is on the age where it becomes okay.
My point of view as the “victim” would be different than my point of view as a parent or taxpayer. As I’ve said before, anyone in a position of power who has a sexual relationship with an “underling” (teacher with student, priest with parishioner, doctor with patient, boss with employee, politician with intern, and so forth) has abused their power and violated the trust that comes with the power. Whether it’s strictly illegal or not, they should instantly lose their job.
Was superhot! She was also stylishly dressed (very short skirts), and had an M.A. from the Sorbonne! I used to fantasize about her-had she initiated something, I’m sure my adoslescent hormones would have shouted “YES!”.
Such dreams-I wonder what the reality would have been-why couldn’t I have been so lucky??