That post has zero content to respond to. I asked you to explain your position and you criticized my use of an apostrophe and offered no explanation or support. Your last line is a non-sequitor. I don’t even see what you were trying to get at. Quite a poor showing, you’d have been better off not responding.
Yeah, this is one thing you’re definitely right about, @SenorBeef. I don’t think expecting Trump’s misdeeds to catch up with him and turn away his supporters is at all realistic.
But, as you can see, if we are not militant enough, not willing to go out into the streets and I guess wander around looking angry, then we are not taking it seriously enough for some. And if we do do that, then we are going to scare off others.
We have too many goals, many of which could be mutually worked for, but won’t be, because there are some who think that their goal is the most important, and won’t work with others to achieve theirs, and will in fact rant and rave and yell at anyone who doesn’t drop everything to work on their particular pet project.
Is that because the Democrats don’t create legislation that would benefit the people, or because the Republicans never let it pass?
Do you judge the entire Democratic party by what Joe Manchin allows, if so, that explains the vile you are spewing, but it actually just demonstrates that you aren’t paying attention to what is actually going on.
So, your solution is to emulate the Republicans?
Like what? I’ve seen plenty of Democratic proposals die in the Senate that would have improved the lives of the people of the US. What do you think they should do? If all you can do is complain, then you are part of the problem, standing in the way of a solution.
So, you think that there has been no progress in decades? Or it just isn’t enough for you to acknowledge?
Hey, we also got some sarcastic clapping.
Right, but the problem is, is that the Democrats get into power, then the voters say, “You haven’t fixed all the problems in my life yet, so I’m sitting out the midterms.” So, rather than building a larger coalition to get more done, the Democrats lose power and essentially become lame ducks until the Republicans take another turn at fucking up the country. Then the cycle repeats where the Democrats are expected to fix the mess the Republicans made within the first 30 days, and when they don’t, you get the whining and crying like you see in this thread by the very people who were undermining them in the first place.
In fairness to SenorBeef’s point, I suspect Manchin and Sinema provided convenient cover for other Democrats who also wouldn’t have voted yes.
I would dearly love to be proven wrong after a fairy tale blue wave in November. I’d also like a million dollars.
Contrary to many gun advocates beliefs, having a gun doesn’t actually stop bullets. I know, right?
It does not seem as though the OP thinks anything of the sort. What the OP may think is that the right, being based on hate and fear, will be more than happy to use guns and murder their fellow citizens. That those on the left won’t be cowering in fear doesn’t mean that many on the left are nearly as enthused about the upcoming bloodshed as some others seem to be.
You are correct, they have no political leaning or ideology. They are just a tool to be used to kill people that you disagree with.
Well, now you are talking about taking on the government, not just our fellow citizens who want to kill us, but same thing there. The more full of hate and carrying a desire to kill, the greater the advantage one has in this sort of scenario.
The side that comes out on top is going to be the worst side.
It makes sense, though, to a gun advocate, guns are the answer to everything.
You mean silly little pet issues like fighting an ongoing coup? Sure, let’s ignore such a trivial pet project. I’m sure we can address the more important stuff you care about after perpetual one party rule is implemented.
Your generic “omg progressives acrostic want to do something instead of just bring happy the democrats lose every time. They’re the real problem!” rant is not really relevant to the thread.
Like who? Why would they have voted against BBB or similar legislation? It’s not for the optics, as they did vote yes on things that made it to the floor, and indicated that they would vote yes on things that Manchin shut down before.
What exactly do you think they stand to gain by publicly stating that they would support a bill and vote for it, but really wouldn’t if their vote would have mattered?
I’m sorry, but I can’t see how you can even possibly think that you are anywhere near right on this conjecture of yours.
But I’ll take a million dollars, too.
Who is ignoring it? Aren’t there big congressional hearings going on right now?
Your “quote” is not really relevant to anything that I’ve said. But you seem to be extremely emotional about this, so I don’t see how any further rational conversation is possible. Maybe if you cool off a bit, then you can try doing something productive rather than just pissing off anyone who would support your position, if you’d articulate it rather than just yell and scream that you aren’t getting everything you want.
Says the guy who, upon being asked to justify his statement, instead criticized a mistaken use of an apostrophe. I was right in my first assessment. You don’t want a thoughtful debate, you just want a soliloquy that makes you feel like you have the high ground even if it has no connection to the topic at hand.
There’s also the fact that Republicans who voted to impeach Trump have been raising more money than the sycophants.
Well as I said, if one truly believes that all hope of a peaceful, lawful turnaround is lost; if you actually are convinced that it’s now only a matter of time before the knock on the door or the death squad is coming, then guns would be the only answer left. Jews in 1930s Germany should have picked up guns and shot back long before they did. Unless the OP was simply indulging in hyperbole and whining rather than being literal.
But certainly by all means, let’s try to defeat Trump and the lunatic Right.
They’d have been better off picking up their bags and moving to the UK or US. There’s a good change they wouldn’t have been met with open arms, but at least they wouldn’t have been met with a gas chamber.
Or, more likely, they’d be met with a closed border.
I don’t know that getting money from genocidal war criminals (GWB) and Democrat donors…is going to be a ringing endorsement.
If the Democrats had 52 seats in the Senate, I don’t think they would circumvent the filibuster. Which they would have to do to pass voting rights or anything else of substance. That’s the cover I’m saying Manchin and Sinema are providing.
Oh, you think the thing I clearly labeled as a “fairy tale” is unrealistic? Shocker.
My Canadian citizenship papers arrived in the mail on the morning of Trump’s inauguration. Admittedly this process had been brewing for years, and I’d filled in all the dots well before Trump declared his candidacy, but all that fall I’d jokingly referred to my pending application as “Trump insurance.”
Further admission, I’d actually been a Canadian citizen from birth. My dad was born there, so all I needed to do was to document his birth and my parentage and about a dozen other things and pay a lawyer a shitload of $$$$ to process the paperwork, so my citizenship papers are actually backdated to my birthday BUT MAN AM I GLAD I HAVE THE OPTION ANY DAY I WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.