How bad a scandal for you to *not* vote for Trump's 2020 Democratic opponent?

Who’s his running mate?

Zombie Goering. Ugh.

Can Democrats Overcome Deepening Divisions in Run-Up to 2020 Elections?

MY GOD! That is absolutely horrendous! I can’t imagine the suffering that would occur if the great and good United States of America started down that horrible road of universal health care.

Imagine, providing health services for all citizens paid for by a common pool of resources! This would be the end of civilization as we know it. Surely, no other country has tried such a radical experiment and survived!

I don’t know how you could even imagine such a hellhole.

Another trumped-up scandal trying to tear the Democrats apart. Hitler’s rotting corpse wasn’t born in the United States and so is ineligible to run.

I’m having a hard time seeing any scenario in which the Electoral College helps Democrats, no matter how good or bad the D candidate may be. The only way the EC helps you is if you lose the popular vote but hit 270 EVs anyway. How do the Ds do that? They’d have to somehow win swing states like Ohio, North Carolina and Florida while losing the national popular vote.

No matter what, the EC always helps the Rs. A Wyoming voter has 3x the power of a Californian. Rural red states always carry more proportional weight.

Vote against or withhold your vote? I have a hard time ever imagining myself voting for Donald Trump. The Dems would have to nominate someone along the lines of David Duke for that to happen. But there are certainly potential scandals weighty enough for me to just not vote at all. Certain criminal offenses for example - I’m not going to vote for someone who snaps under stress and punches out their spouse on the eve of the election.

This. It should be the front page news of every paper, every day. We should be doing nothing else until it’s resolved and laws are in place to make sure it never happens again. The fact that after YEARS we still have concentration camps in the United States – for children, based on their race and skin color – should have cost Trump all of his supporters ages ago. It’s the absolute icing on the proof that conservatives really are as racist as the Dems have been claiming for years, no matter how strident their denials or attempts to redirect this into “name-calling. (The wall, only along the “brown people” border, helps, too.)”

Nothing imaginable would get me not to vote for anyone other than his opponent unless that opponent could somehow managed to exceed this very, very high bar. The rotting corpse of Hitler would at least not be taking active malicious action. I would literally vote for the office to be left empty rather than allow Trump to continue in it.

If the Democrat pulls off his latex mask on national TV and reveals himself to actually be Trump in disguise. Or if Trump and the democrats both pull off masks and reveal themselves to be interchangeable space aliens. In that case, I’d go ahead and vote third party and throw my vote away.

Were Trump Kang and the Democrat Kodos, I’d vote for Kodos. Not because they’re a Democrat but because they’re not Trump.

If the Dem nominate Harris, I will vote 3rd party. Only because I know CA is a safe Dem state.

I think voting third party in a swing state is extremely stupid. Despite Hillary’s faults, she would be a 1000 times better than Trump. I despise the third party voters who bought into the Kremlins propaganda that Hillary was just as bad as Trump. I’d wish them to go to Hell, but they are currently in a hell of their own making- the current USA, and the fascist dictatorship it is possibly on the way to becoming.

Put me down with those who say the Democrats couldn’t possibly nominate anyone worse than Trump. And I wouldn’t go 3rd party under any circumstance either since any vote not for the Democratic nominee is a vote that helps Trump.

This cannot be overstated. Fuck your stupid sense of self worth - if you vote for a third party candidate you are worse than a Trump supporter because you know better and yet you enabled this fucking prick.

“Fuck your stupid sense of self-worth”

That’s a hell of a voting slogan Cotton. let’s see if THAT appeals to the 3rd party voters and the sit-at-homes any better than “Russian stooge” and “BernieBro”

I said it two years ago and I’ll say it again. Dracarys.

Florida just added some 3 million voters who are overwhemingly going to vote D.

Read the thread title and just started laughing - not even really sure exactly what at. Did not read the thread, sorry.

Um… rape/torture/murder, proven and documented? The revelation of his/her explicit secret plans to commit genocide if elected?

Apart from that, nothing. And even then I’d go third party or write-in rather than actively choosing Trump.

(I’m in New York anyway, and our vote is safe, thank God. I love my glorious blue state!)

Well, in a swing state, at least, yes. In CA or NY, you can vote for martians, it wouldnt matter.

But yes, third party voters voted trump in. They are every much to blame as MAGA hat wearing , redneck racists.

How’d that work out for you?

And do you believe voting for a 3rd party candidate in 2020 will bring about whatever changes in government you hope to happen?

Translation please