How can anyone vote for Trump in 2020? No. But Seriously

PUTNAM COUNTY GEORGIA, JUNE 13, 2017. Ricky Dubose, a member of the Ghostface Gangsters white supremacist prison gang, and another inmate, Donnie Russell Rowe, reportedly killed two corrections officers while trying to escape from a prison bus. They were later recaptured.

Here’s the best one yet:

TAMPA, FLORIDA, MAY 19, 2017. White supremacist Devon Arthurs allegedly shot to death two of his roommates for making fun of his recent conversion to Islam. All three, and a fourth roommate, were members of Atomwaffen, a neo-Nazi group.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/our-reporters-are-crazy.php

“Not because of Trump, who is generally a voice of sanity”

By Hypnos, how can anybody take Power Line seriously?

I looked at a few of their climate change articles. Pure garbage.

Yeah, get better sources of information agzem.

I like how you bolded “recent conversion to Islam.” Those damn Muslims right? As soon as they convert they become so violent!

You do realize listing these things doesn’t actually help your case right? Actually, I’m guessing you don’t realize that. So umm listing these doesn’t actually help your case. Just letting you know. It can save you some time and electrons.

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like how you bolded “recent conversion to Islam.” Those damn Muslims right? As soon as they convert they become so violent
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According to the ADL that is right-wing violence

Read the sentence again. Slowly.

What is your understanding of socio-political leanings of neo-nazis and white supremacists?

https://florida.adl.org/news/neo-nazi-group-with-tampa-ties-called-real-threat-by-anti-defamation-league/

Yeah, it wasn’t the shooting. It is the "Anti-Defamation League and says the fact the Atomwaffen Division had bomb-making materials and plans to attack real facilities show they are a dangerous group.

“The targets included nuclear plants, synagogues and civilians,” Mendelson said. “And so regardless if they had the capability of carrying it out, the fact that they even had this idea that they would plot to hatch this plan is of great concern.”"

So again, to be clear, showing how often white supremacists are shooting people doesn’t exactly help your case.

I think that what he is trying to say is that white supremacists murders should only counted if the are done to a target of white surpemicy. Maybe?

If one white supremacist kills another white person, then that is not an example of a violent white supremacist.

Klan wife kills Klan husband is “right wing terrorism”:

LEADWOOD, MISSOURI, FEBRUARY 9, 2017. Frank Ancona, head of the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, was shot to death; his wife and fellow Klan member, Malissa Ancona, and her son have been charged for the murder.

So members of organized crime gangs killing other members of organized crime gangs, not organized crime gang violence?

Did Jussie Smollett commit right wing violence when he wrapped a noose around his own neck?

Maybe. I don’t know. Could be. It doesn’t help that they have misrepresented at least one of the cases (I’m not inclined to go and check any of the others because I have better things to do with time). So shrug. I think I stopped caring several minutes ago.

No. Turns out he was just a fucking liar. See the difference?

Doubtless the goalposts will be moved so here are some more goalposts:

From that last link:

The FBI has elevated its assessment of the threat posed by racially-motivated violent extremists in the U.S. to a “national threat priority” for fiscal year 2020, FBI director Christopher Wray said Wednesday. He said the FBI is placing the risk of violence from such groups “on the same footing” as threats posed to the country by foreign terrorist organizations such as ISIS and its sympathizers.

“Not only is the terror threat diverse — it’s unrelenting,” Wray said at an oversight hearing before the House Judiciary Committee.

Racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, or domestic terrorists motivated by racial or religious hatred, make up a “huge chunk” of the FBI’s domestic terrorism investigations, Wray said in statements before the Senate Homeland Security Committee last November. The majority of those attacks are “fueled by some type of white supremacy,” he said.

Your choice is to consider everygoddamnthingelse including the preservation of American democracy and a functioning society and give over on this matter of direct personal benefit to you, because sometimes, maybe all the times, the issue of gun ownership is not the most important thing to society.

Children will die in cages, the elderly will needlessly die by the tens of thousands, America will be relegated to a failed laughing-stock, the poor will be disenfranchised, the healthcare system will crater, the economy will produce more crushing disparities, free speech will wilt, sure. But on the other hand, there would be slightly more regulation on his hobby that kills 30 thousand people a year.

I mean who among us wouldn’t make the same decision?

Trump has allegedly mobilized his followers to “monitor” polling places on election day. All 60 million of them: there will be confrontations.

Good point. Everyone bring some wheel chocks to immobilize their mobility scooters.

I don’t plan to vote for him, but if you are asking for some positives (sort of), I’ll give a few grudging ones. The biggest is I think he has put the CCPs feet to the fire and really turned up the pressure on them. While I disagreed with how he did things, and the trade war in general, especially his (ridiculous IMHO) stated goals, I think this was something that needed to be done and I hope that there is enough bipartisan support for this that after Trump loses in November that we continue to ramp up the pressure and don’t go back to the old status quo. I particularly like the way he and his administration have called out the CCP for their massive human rights violations, and the work they have done to form a coalition of regional powers to join us in putting on this pressure, especially the new direction towards India. It’s one of the things I worry about with Biden…not that this is going to stop me from voting for him, of course.

Hm…other than this, I guess I’d say that I thought his Syrian strategy was not completely a disaster, and I did agree with the decision to hammer the Syrian’s over their use of poison gas…I thought that was long overdue and something we should have done before. Um…I can’t think of anything else, though there were a few things I partially agreed with, though generally I agreed that it’s something that should be done but thought the way he addressed it was stupid or misguided at best. But devil his due, or perhaps even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut, he has done a few things that I more or less agreed with…somewhat.

That is not impressive when one realizes how until late 2019 that was not important at all to Trump.

Suddenly, since he has to justify how he is blaming China for all things economical and pandemic, he finally did reach for the human rights angle.