Actually, Stillownedbysetters already suggested talking to a supervisor.
While Bad News Baboon’s advice would seem to be the most reasonable grownup response I think ultimately he will have to be killed. That inappropriate flirter is out there. He can’t be bargained with. He can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are flirting back with him.
Killing him is the only real answer.
I guess astro has never had a lot of unwanted attention. Lucky him.
Oh I have, but infantilizing the OP by assuming she cannot be assertive and direct with her annoyer, and conversely assuming he is a mindless, gibbering idiot who will not respond to a direct instruction to stop his annoying behavior is usually not the best place to start in seeking to modify behavior. If he proves uneducable you might have to wind up going up the food chain, but beginning with the assumption that direct, forceful communication is useless is not usually the most productive strategy.
People sometimes lose their way re appropriate boundaries when they are attracted to someone. A nuclear strike from HR might be necessary at some point but as a starting point it might be better to have a direct and emphatic conversation.
Agree.
I like it the way it is. How can I make my co worker stop flirting wtih mestop flirting with me stop stop fllirting with me stop yeaaaaaagbh!!!
Bad, bad, bad move. One place I worked a woman whose ex-boyfriend was actually harassing her did just this. She got in a lot of trouble for not reporting it to security first. Any reasonably sized company has a big problem with cops pulling up to the door.
And she would have been supported if she had gone through channels.
An old employee is different from a senior employee. A high level manager could be a problem to complain about, but a low level old person might not.
She seems to have already done the polite refusal. The firm refusal is next. Then supervisor. Then HR.
HR’s job is to protect the company. That can easily mean that they think acting against this guy protects the company more than ignoring the complaint - which could spill over into bad publicity.
Not to mention that some HR people might have gone through this themselves.
Yeah blame the wife! ![]()
I’ve just been through something similar to this. I called him out in front of the boss - asked him to keep professional and not use terms such as ‘love of my life’, ‘darling’ etc when talking to me. The old codger persisted though, since most of the time we would be the only people in the office. His wife was having chemo at the time. Well as luck would have it, just as I was about to drag him before the boss again - I’d noticed he was stroking himself while sitting opposite my desk (I’d moved the chair so he couldn’t sit there, but he’d get one and drag it over) he had a accident. Someone rearended his car, he got whiplash and had to be off work - finally got a doctors note advising him to retire.
I bumped into him in the street a few weeks ago and he put his arms out as if I was going to hug him. I shoved him off. It’s really unpleasant crap to deal with. OP you have my sympathies. We needed a day worker the other day and his name came up - I told the boss I’d rather not have to work with him again and we called someone else.
In the past I’ve pulled the ‘large menacing boyfriend’ (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) card more than once - some of these ticks just need a bigger dick to shut them up. OP - can you fabricate a male partner/relative to meet you from work a few times?
t-bonham@scc.net - not meaning to snark you mate, just that I’ve found mentioning the wife can sometimes get taken the wrong way too. Mentioning the wife can mean ‘game on!’ to some of these idiots.
And I’d like to point out my response to that thread, showing that the “recent problem” had been posted on another message board, months before.
I’d take any posts from the OP with a grain of salt.
Good point. Especially some of the more hysterical replies. This may be entirely hypothetical. :mad:
We’re up to 73 posts and almost a week since the OP with no sign of her returning.
Late add after **Calatin **posted below: She was online here as recently as yesterday. I didn’t bother to check what she’s posted recently.
I’m sure she’ll pop back up in a month or so, with some new fanciful situation.
Yup. The problem is, if a woman walks around and shows no interest or even talks to men in the work place she is considered unfriendly and a bitch. But if she acknowledges men actually exist, some idiots take this to me it’s an overture for romance. I never understood guys who can’t read signs that make others uncomfortable. In this case, the idiot is married so he should know better.
I see this as not meant to blame the wife, but to inform her in the hopes that she’ll lower the boom on his sorry ass. The “why can’t she satisfy him” part isn’t meant literally, it’s a goad to inspire action, whereas saying “your hubby is flirting with me” sounds like ordinary tattling and is easy to ignore.
Ashby: [sings country-style with guitar] She was a young thing in the prime of her life, Standing there lookin’ as cute as could be. So I walked on over and asked her her name - I’m still not believin’ what she said to me… “I don’t f*** fossils for free, old man. I don’t f*** fossils for free. So just go on home and take matters in hand, 'Cause I don’t f*** fossils for free.”
You don’t say how old you are. The second he asked for your phone number when he saw you outside work, you should NOT have deployed the “I’m not a phone person” polite pretense stuff. You were on notice as of the other examples you gave.
Next time this happens, you need to say “Phil, I’m sorry that I wasn’t straight forward with you in the past. I’m a woos (“hate confrontation”) and realize that only made matters worse. I am not interested in a personal relationship, and I need the expression of an interest in such a relationship to stop.” Do NOT say he “makes” you uncomfortable; outside of childhood or someone smacking you, etc., someone can’t “make” you feel any given thing.
As HR professional mentioned, he will have a (VERY typical) human reaction to save face, etc. He may well be huffy.
If he doesn’t knock off the behavior after a clearly delivered message, THEN discuss it with HR. (We cannot know whether your HR person is incompetent, etc., etc., so we cannot know the outcome.)
As for the notion that there’s any reason to call the police, clearly someone thinks they know more about the law than they do, because (at this point, given what poster relays) that’s ridiculous.
well, yes. One should never call the police over a completely hypothetical situation posted on a message board. ![]()
I didn’t mean mention the wife to him – I meant (and thought I said) mention him to the wife!