Does everybody realize that cash jobs like under the table jobs don’t do background checks. Why is it that cash jobs like under the table jobs don’t do background checks but only jobs that withheld taxes and pay in check or online bank account do background checks? I worked jobs and the only jobs that I had a background check was on a mascot job since it required working with vulunerable people which was children and I passed it since I don’t have crimes against kids and a cell phone retail store jobs. I worked cash jobs like snow shoveling and flea market which didn’t require background checks. Even sign holder jobs don’t require background checks. I worked at warehouses which don’t require background checks. Both the warehouse and sign holder withheld taxes.
A background check would create a connection between the employer and the person being paid in cash. The employer is paying the person under the table, at least in part, to avoid that connection.
Also, why would you need a background check to shovel snow or work at a flea market? Many, if not most, jobs don’t require them.
Background checks cost money and they’re really only going to be used if the employer feels they’re necessary. A job that requires a background check is often not a job that an employer would pay someone under the table to do.
Lastly, because your post suggests some confusion. Any given job will have entirely different metrics used to decide if applicants require a background check or not and if it’s something they could be paid under the table for. In other words, not all above board jobs require background checks. My store has been in business for over 40 years and we’ve never run a background check on anyone. OTOH, working at my store doesn’t involve a lot of interaction which children or having access to a backroom with a $100k worth of cell phones.
I suspect that many who are doing cash jobs cannot pass a background check. At least enough that the company would want plausible deniability.
Paying people under the table has elements of illegality - the business not paying their share of SS & medicare taxes, & helping the worker not pay enough income taxes. As well as not contributing enough for worker’s comp & unemployment.
If a business is cutting corners & skimping in one area why do you think they’d follow the letter of the law elsewhere?
Especially one that is one of those feel good laws that probably doesn’t do all that much anyway
Q: How many kids did Jerry Sandusky molest before he was caught?
A: All of them. IOW, a background check wouldn’t have caught anything despite him being a serial molester for years as he had an unblemished legal record up until the day he was arrested
Aha it makes sense now. Yeah I agree it doesn’t make sense to do a background check on shoveling snow and working at a flea market since they pay under the table and the employer is trying to avoid the connection as you said. As for you store not doing background check there can be a repeat thief stealing money or products. I agree that not all jobs should do background checks only jobs that require working with vulnerable people and public safety like law enforcement and military should do background checks.
Like felons and sex offenders can’t pass background checks most jobs under the tables paying in cash hires sex offenders and felons.
True but I see lot of posts of craiglist for babysitter jobs paying under the table sometimes less then minimum wage and not doing background checks which is risky because they could be hiring a child molestors who hasn’t been caught or who has been convicted. There was a sex offender arrested for working as a baby sitter and molesting the kid again which he posted on Facebook.
You don’t pay people cash for work like shoveling snow because you can keep an eye on them while working. For unsupervised or unverified work, work requiring a high skill level, or anything where a high level of trust is important you’d be nuts to pay cash to someone you don’t already trust based on experience or trusted recommendations. And as noted above, you want to avoid establishing an employer/employee relationship that will leave you liable for taxes and other regulations.
Yes that’s true but so many skilled trade jobs which requires lot of skills and experience hire illegals in America and pay them in cash.
Name one.
A background check may include or may not be separate from a child abuse check. Some places will do criminal background checks; you don’t necessarily want the guy with theft conviction(s) working the register; even in a bar or other establishment where you don’t expect children. Some will do child abuse checks (a past misdemeanor record won’t necessarily disqualify you from a job where you need to pass a child abuse check), & others will do both.
As @beowulff requests, you’ll have to be more specific. Skilled trade jobs are in the category of plumbers, electricians, welders, generally union related and/or licensed positions. There are some jobs requiring a higher level of skill than an untrained manual laborer, but there aren’t that many. I recall cases in the past where finish carpenters and ceramic tilers who need a bit of skill and experience to perform suitable work might be hired without documentation, but even that seems rarer now. A contractor may hire an undocumented worker on some trade related jobs but that is usually by way of a personal contact, not someone found at the Home Depot parking lot.
A lot of construction work is done by illegal aliens. I’d call that a skilled trade.
The vast majority of construction jobs aren’t skilled trades. Using a nail gun or operating a jackhammer isn’t considered a special skill, it’s assumed any manual laborer could do those jobs based on a few physical requirements. Documented workers without experience or training would be hired under the table just as easily as undocumented workers. When greater skills are necessary a contractor may hire undocumented workers based on personal knowledge of their ability or a based on a trusted reference, but that’s not many construction jobs.
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Yep it makes sense. Didn’t know they also had a child abuse check too. I thought child abuse check was the same as criminal record check. I know they have the sex offender registry which they can check online in America since it’s only public in America. In all countries it’s private but you can check in the Internet in Canada and UK for sex offenders without their address.
That covers a whole ton of jobs. You can’t say “construction” is a skilled job anymore than you can say that a hospital employee is in the medical field or a school employee is a teacher.
Can a fat guy or skinny guy work as a construction worker with good motor skills? You need to be a jacked up body builder or powerlifter like 6 ft 3 230 lbs or 6 ft 5 300 lbs to work construction lifting 60 to 100 lbs items consistently and have good motor skills to hammer nails properly. Also construction is very time sensitive jobs with tight deadlines and extremely fast paced rushed job like a McDonald fast food job. I never worked a skilled trade or construction or fast food job but I did apply for McDonald’s like six times went in person and handed my resume and online but didn’t get hired or called back because I’m 30 almost 31 and a college graduate. As for constructions i applied for those job but in my town on Canada they prefer to hire their own ethnicity or family members/ relatives. I worked as a snow shoveler shoveling snow manually with a shovel since I was 10 along with warehouse jobs and currently as a sign holder holding and waving a square advertisement sign so that’s my experience with manual labour. I’ve also worked as a mascot and retail stores stocking items on shelf.
Picking strawberries. And other stuff. Try it sometimes. Quite a few farming or ranching jobs require skills. Sure, they arent on the level with electricians, but those jobs are not easy.
However, the days of those jobs being cash under the table are gone. The IRS is more feared than the INS. And if you get a SSN (even if it might look bogus) then you have plausible deniability. If you pay them under the table the IRS shut down your business and you are looking at some serious charges- as that is solid evidence you thought they were undocumented.
Now sure, some jobs are still under the table cash- but usually the pay is for a one time or under $400. So, yeah, you can go to a large hardware depot and hire a bunch of day workers for $100 buch each- but you arent gonna get into IRS trouble.
People hire gardeners or babysitters and pay them $50- $100 per month- sure that adds up to over $400 per year, but the total is too small to bother with. Mind you the IRS looks carefully at FT live in help, or even 20hr a week help. But not one day a week for a couple/few hours.
Under the table FT paid jobs are a thing of the past- mostly.
It is to laugh. I see skinny shorter than average guys on construction jobs are the time. My buddy is a licensed contractor- he is a few inches short than me. Mind you his arms are really well muscled, but he isn’t big.
True. My arms are 16 inches and I’m 5 ft 8 176 lbs. I used to be obese at 230 lbs but lifted weights and walked in woods to get down to 176 lbs.