How come you never hear of "home grown" cocaine?

I know that cocaine production is much more involved than marijauna but im still surprised ive never heard of US coca growing facilities. I looked it up on the net and saw that it took roughly 250 lbs of coca leaves to make 22 lbs. of cocaine. Im not sure how many coca plants it would take to yield that, but it;s an awful lot of cocaine in any case. The other question is why coca plants arent genetically engineered to produce more alkaloid?

Maybe because it’s too hard to recreate the conditions under which coca is grown.

I doubt this thread will survive long. But, FWIW, I heard somewhere that the seeds keep their viability only for a short while. And they don’t grow well in most places…apart from the legal aspects, when’s the last time you heard of American cacao or coffee plantations?

Plus you don’t get the seeds with your 8 ball. And the Columbian Cartel might cut your thumbs off.

Or is that the Colombian cartel.

Who needs home grown coca? Methamphetamines are the equivilent of home grown cocaine. Support your local biker gangs and buy American.

First off, I don’t see how this thread violates any policies but I could be wrong. It’s not like im asking how to setup a facility.

  • As far as coffee - it just doesnt have the same profit margins.
    I also can’t imagine you cant recreate the coca growing conditions in a greenhouse.
  • Loved the comment about not getting the seeds with your 8ball - priceless.

First of you do need to grow coca plant in your basement. The condition required to grow good coca are hot and dry air. Also, you need to grow quite a few to produce cocaine, you would need quite a big basement. Also, the energy you use to grow such a quantity of coca plant will get noticed as suspicious ( unlike growing a few marijuana plant for you :slight_smile: ) After you get your plant here’s what you do.

(recipe removed - manhattan)

Way to get a potentially interesting thread shut down.

OK, I’ll bite. What’s an 8-ball?

RR

I guess that you didn’t read your own cite.

A hot, dry basement is not ideal growing conditions for most things, let alone something that is associated with mountain valleys.

8-ball…eighth ounce. Typical ‘party pack’ back in the day - enough to keep four or five friends in bathroom rotation for the night.

Everything you always wanted to know about growing coca plants, courtesy of the CIA. Your tax dollars at work.
http://www.cia.gov/saynotodrugs/cocaine_q.html

To address the OP: it’s a bush, you can’t really grow it in your basement as it’s too big and needs too much light and if you use halogens, they’re a dead giveaway to local law enforcement (same as with marijuana), it takes a long time (months) to grow before you can start picking leaves, and then it takes a LOT of leaves (i.e. a lot of bushes) to get anything like usable quantities of cocaine. Then it has to be processed before you can market it, unlike marijuana, which is immediately usable.

Coca leaves are a Schedule II Controlled Substance, same as cocaine, codeine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, and opium extracts and tinctures.
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/listby_sched/sched2.htm

Marijuana is a Schedule I Controlled Substance, same as PCP, Ecstasy, mescaline, peyote, and morphine and heroin.
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/listby_sched/sched1.htm

And the DOJ would like to point out:

As for why coca plants haven’t been genetically engineered to produce more alkaloid, well, it generally takes a big gentech corporation like Monsanto or somebody, to get behind a program of genetic engineering, and I’d have to wonder if they’d be able to get much R & D funding for coca. :smiley:

As for why the Ecuadorians and Colombians and Peruvians don’t select for “more alkaloid”, well, why should they? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. If they did come up with a coca variety that produced alkaloid the way a corn plant produces fructose, they’d flood the market with cheap cocaine, profits would plummet, and they’d be out of a job and back to growing coffee for Folger’s. They’re not stupid.

Your leaf to cocaine source is wrong, the ratio is closer to 1000 lbs of coca leaf to about 2 lbs of cocaine and the intermediate processing steps are potentially hazardous and involve noxious and dangerous solvents and related chemicals. This (in addition to the other difficulties mentioned by other posters) might change the economic feasability of the cost/benefit ratio for most people who want to “grow their own.”

homework assignment:

Gather up enough little leaves to make what you think would equal a pound.

weigh it.

Gather up more leaves (since you most likely underestimated by quite a bit)

multiply the amount of space you need by 1000.

imagine trying to conceal that.

It’d be similar to attempting to shoplift a grand piano by sticking it in your pants pocket, I suspect.

As I learned on another thread, cocaine is legally produced in the United States from imported coca leaves. Apparently it’s OK for big US corporations to profit from the plant but not South American peasants. So why wouldn’t Monsanto get in on the action?

“The Legal Importation of Cocaine”

A good article from the Guardian on cocaine

As I learned on another thread, cocaine is legally produced in the United States from imported coca leaves. Apparently it’s OK for big US corporations to profit from the plant but not South American peasants. So why wouldn’t Monsanto get in on the action?

“The Legal Importation of the Coca Leaf”

A good article from the Guardian on cocaine

DDG said-

Coca tea, too?

I am terribly, terribly ashamed for what I am about to do, but I am unable to stop myself. Please get me help.
“Is that a grand piano in your pocket, or …?”

“Nope, just glad to see you.”

Jimbrowski, you’ve just changed what it means “to tickle the ivories”.
I don’t think that we can help you.