Black Widow.
Went to go see this when the film we really wanted to see was gone. One critic talked about the “plot twist” at the end.
[spoiler] Debra Winger turns up the Mate-and-kill-and-Inherit Serial Widow, and the Serial Widow finds out about HER, and sets her up. She’s apparently executed…
…only she ISN’T! They just wanted the Black Widow to show her true colors.
THIS is a plot twist? Big Whoop.
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I believe he’s referring to a Twilight Zone episode in which the “surprise” twist ending involves the character being Hitler.
Uh, given that most of the time, you saw the murderer actually do the murder in the first 10 minutes, I’d have to say that’s no big feat…
Unless I’m being whooshed
In the Star Wars prequels, was the audience actually supposed to be surprised that Darth Sideous and Palpatine turned out to be the same person? Ian McDermond was only credited as Palpatine but Christopher Lee was credited as Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus. That makes me think that maybe we were supposed to have some doubt. If it was supposed to be a twist, it was a pretty weak one.
I don’t think I’ve ever been fooled by a chcracter initially presented as a young male turning out to be female. Usually, I just assume that we were meant to think them female all along.
Pitch Black stands out to me, because the futuristic setting doesn’t really allow for a girl to go in drag. I mean, are we to assume that the future is too sexist to allow young women to sneak aboard spaceships, but not young men can pull it off?
Knowledge of that law has ruined many a plot for me. Curses upon the man!
Actually Skald the Rhymer, what he (and I) were referring to was a couple of spoofs of Twilight Zone on Futurama, called the Scary Door.
Since they’re hilarious, I’ll link them.
The first Scary Door clip spoofs several Twilight Zone episodes. The “You’re HITLER!” bit is specifically from 1960’s The Man in the Bottle.
I feel the same way about Chekhov’s Gun.
I’m referring to the PCA/ACA Natural Conference
At the end of No Country For Old Men:
the killer Chigurh is driving along a quiet, peaceful, sunny suburban road. No background music or ambient noise. There’s green lawns and tidy little gardens and a couple of kids are cycling by.
I turn to my dad to the next seat and say in an undertone: “He’s so going to get nailed at the next intersection.”
Lo and behold.
I thought the same thing, but it still made me jump out of my seat when the car came from the OTHER side so we couldn’t see the view of it approaching on the side.
Because of Eragon, anytime Mrs Cad or I see one of these obvious plot twists one of us will yell out:
He’s a dragon-rider!
Wow, thank you so much! Where has this been all my life? I could end up adapting at least half the papers I wrote for my MLS!
I’m a pretty smart guy. I was a medic in the Army for a while and saw my share of gut wounds. I’ve seen a lot of movies. I’ve seen all the Twlight Zone episodes with twists and such.
Didn’t see this one coming from a mile away. Hit me like a ton of bricks. A great film and a great presentation, IMO.
Oh yeah? Well, if I’m not a great detective than how come I’m always able to figure out that it’s not a real ghost before the final scene in Scooby Doo?
I remember it differently. I recall that they filmed his head nods before they interviewed her, explaining that they would need “head nods” and stuff, and they were explaining how they would do the interview process. I remember him having a pleasant conversation with the interviewee and joking about something an essentially saying something like “watch this”, doing the teary-eyed thing, and then the woman he was interviewing said, “Wow, that’s so amazing.” because she thought it was cool that he could make himself cry on demand.
It was a long, long time ago though, so I may be completely misremembering that.
Oh, I just thought of one. My ex rented City of Angels. I’d seen the oiginal Wim Wenders Wings of Desire and heard this was supposed to be a pretty bad Americanized remake (wherein all the weighty existentialism stuff was replaced by a sappy love story). In the original an angel falls in love with a mortal circus acrobat. In the American re-make, the Nicholas Cage angel falls in love with the Meg Ryan neurosurgeon. I found and excuse to leave and go home after an early scene, where Meg Ryan looks like she’s not enjoying her marriage to Colm Feore, and leaves for work early, riding her bike to the hospital.
She was riding without a helmet. I said, “You have got to be kidding me. A brain surgeon is riding in LA rush hour without a helmet? Oh, I get it. The climax will be that she gets hit by a car and is fatally wounded because she wasn’t wearing a helmet, and no one will be able to save her because she is the brain surgeon. Bah!”
I went home and my then-girlfirend stopped in (I lived just down the street) after the movie ended saying, “Oh gawd, :rolleyes: that’s exactly what happened. It was really lame.”
Oh, the husband’s not doing that one this year. He’s preparing for (among other things) SC3. If he comes home with one more bit of paraphernalia with “Buffyologist” written on it, I might just scream. (Of course, then he’d just write a paper on the female scream and its use in popular culture, and work “Hush” into it somehow.)