I have only purchased ammo since moving to Missouri, but the procedure described in the link asterion provided in post #2 concurs with what I have been told.
IOW, any prospective handgun buyer at a gun show would have to go and get the permit from the county sherrif’s office prior to the show; they would then fill out the firearm’s vitals (make, model, caliber, etc) and return it to the sherrif’s office.
The since each permit is only good for one handgun (if I’m reading the info correctly), those buying collection would need multiple permits, which I don’t know whether or not is allowed. It may vary from Sherrif’s office to sherrif’s office.
Hasn’t been a problem for me, but I wonder what they do if a buyer encounters what I did in Texas gun show one time: a fellow was selling off his collection, and he had three Colt Pythons, 4", 6" and 8" barrels, never fired, pristine condition, in a beautiful silk-lined, cushioned, glass-topped display case (I would’ve jumped on them, but the price was princely, and my money situation was “tight”).
I guess by Missouri law, I would have to have three permits on me to purchase them.
This isn’t entirely correct save for the “added” qualifier as the check is done by a state agency. IIRC there was a brouhaha over this as an unfunded manate when the Brady law was enacted. I’m not aware that any state mandates a background check beyond what is required for federal law since that has gone into effect.
I think we approached this question the wrong way. We’re in IMHO, not GQ where cold, clinical answers are called for. I’d probably make some people freak out if I said it was a religious experience but there is definately a ritual.
I usually begin by stopping by my favorfite hogleg emporium, Legendary Guns in Phoenix. I never go close to closing time when I plan to buy a gun. I’ll relax myself by browsing all the cases, no mater what I intended to buy. They have the cowboy guns in another room that’s quiet and good for mediating. I’ll eventually settle down to the case where the gun I want sits and ask one of the salesman to let met get my greasy mitts on it. The salesman clears the weapon and shows me it is unloaded before handing it to me. I follow rules 1, 2 and 3 while trying out the sight picture. I’ll fiddle with the action and finally set the gun down on the pad on the counter and step back.
When it’s right something clicks in side. “Write that bad boy up!” A beaming salesman will take my driver’s license, CCW and AmEx card in exchange for a form 4473. I’ll browse it quickly to make sure they didn’t change anything on it. For years all the questions that would disqualify someone from legally posessing a firearm had no for the correct answer. This got changed a couple of years ago so people had to start paying attention.
I won’t rush out of the store right away since it’s usually too late to go straight to the range. I’ll linger in the store a bit longer and shoot the shit. Every good gun shop has some guys whose occupation seems to be hanging around the gun store. This is one reason I almost never buy from a chain store. My most recent purchase was a Browning Buckmark target model from Sportsman’s Warehouse, only because no one else in town had one in stock. You know it has been a while since I bought a new gun at Legendary…hmmm.
Wow. I’m amazed that for the most part, most states have a more-or-less instant background check over the phone.
But my eyes were really opened up with hybrid_dogfish’s post. I mean, you have to prove a reason to own a firearm? I guess that’s one of the things I took for granted as an American. . . Wow.
But it seems that most everyone with a CCW/CHL tends to get ushered through the rigamaroll pretty quickly, with the background investigation already being done and all.
Huh? If that’s the case, that’s the policy of the guy that you got the pistol from. I got mine just as fast as I could fill out the BATF paperwork and pay the guy, with a short pause for the background check. 25 minutes, tops.
Most of the better ones do. I’ve run into a few where the staff are gun snobs, and view anyone who buys over-the-counter as a piker, a poof, and treat them accordingly. Needless to say, they don’t get too much of my money.
This is a federal requirement and a federally ran program. All the states are calling the same NICS, and they all must keep an ATF Form 4473 on file.
Though some states may require more than those two items, no state can require less. These are mandated by the ATF - a 4473 and a call in.
I’m amazed that most states are putting faith into/subscribing to the more-or-less instant NICS system, and not implementing a waiting period on top of that. To me, it seems that
A) the states are trusting the Feds with a system that is supposedly “foolproof” [sub]I’m rolling my eyes at that one[/sub]. . . and
B) a lot of states aren’t implementing their own waiting periods (some states such as NJ notwithstanding since you have to ‘wait’ for the damned permits to go through).
But what the hey, it seems to be working to some degree. . .
Tripler
I’m not complaing . . . since I left New Jersey.
