I could give in to anal (no pun intended - but no other quick and dirty way to say it). But if oral is given to someone passed out then the receiver is not intending sexual pleasure nor orgasim therefore gets to keep their virginity - just like the rape situation.
Well, I’d think that for some gays, it may very well be their first experience.
And I know for a fact that some Muslim girls get their first sexual experience the alternative way, thus “preserving” their virginity. Bit of a double standard if you ask me, but that’s what I’ve heard from some of them.
Gee, if that’s not a typical HandyPost, I don’t know what is.
This is actually a question of some interest to me. I participated in a number of sexual acts with the Imzadi, but not actual penetrative penis-and-vagina intercourse. I didn’t so that until a full two years later, with a jerk who didn’t deserve it. I would really rather consider my virginity to have been lost with the Imzadi rather than the Jerk.
To confuse the issue, I didn’t have hymeneal breakage with either of them - a childhood of fence climbing, horseback riding, and ballet lessons seems to have stretched my hymen into nonexistence well before anyone explored the area with so much as a finger.
I am of the opinion that penetrative intercourse is only a very tiny fraction of what I consider “sex”, and that basing the definition of “virginity” on penetrative intercourse puts too much emphasis on it. Then again, I can’t come up with anything better, except perhaps one’s first orgasm administered by another person - which would make a number of wives with children virgins.
Have you had a sexual encounter with someone before? Did it involve genital stimulation? If so, then I can’t see how you can be considered a virgin regardless of what body parts were involved in the stimulation.
My definition of sex is a sharing of genetic material. But then I’m more like a scientist…
Once you deal with your straight sex virginity, you’re still a gay-sex virgin, right?
“I have not had sex in over two years. I think once you reach two years, you get your virginity back.” - Margaret Cho
To me, I think losing your virginity is an emotional thing. The first time you really want sex and consider that desire to have been fulfilled, I’d say that’s losing your virginity.
I thought you just had to go see the Rocky Horror Picture Show at midnight.
I was 16, she was an “older woman” of 17, I met her at an AC DC concert in 1983. We did it in my bed while my parents were gone for the weekend, condom broke, didn’t cum. Missed a day of school preparing for the event. Girl was fat. The end
SP
The first time I had sex, I was very afraid and unsure of myself. But worst of all, I was all-alone.
Sheep auction.
Believe it or not, this issue is actually quite old. There have been sermons and writings castigating monastics who were “technically” virgins (having never actually had sexual contact) but whose minds were very far from being what was considered the spiritual state of virginity, as they indulged in (what they thought was) secret lust. One opinion on this matter is, no matter how “virgin” they might be “in the body”, they had long ago rejected virginity.
Likewise, someone who had been subject to unwanted sexual contact (thus maintaining virginity of mind and spirit by not desiring the contact) could, according to some theologians, still be considered virgin.
And then there were the legalists, who insisted upon defining every little not and tittle. Is oral sex sex (well, if it ain’t, then why isn’t it called oral nonsex?)? What about another? What about if it’s only one inch of penetration? What if it happens with a cloth between them? What if that cloth is large enough so that they do not actually see each other? What if it is only the use of the hands. What if only one touches the other but the other merely receives the touch, which one is not a virgin? Yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda.
As you might suspect, I have no respect at all for the legalists.
Another example of the ignorant feeling a need to re-invent the wheel. There is already a word to describe adhering to “proper” sexual mores even if one is not a virgin. That word is continence.
Indeed, continence is a superior social concept than is “secondary virginity” since it is not lost upon being married. A husband and wife can bang each other with great frequency and still be perfectly and 100% pure and chaste. This is because they are married, and the marriage bed is not a defiling thing.
See (http://www.stjohndc.org/stjohndc/English/Homilies/0109a.htm) for a fuller explication by a Priest regarding the sanctity of the marriage bed and what goes on there.
A quote therefrom:
I wasn’t so concerned about losing it, it was finding it under the seat cushions, right next to my car keys, .27, and a golf tee that freaked me out.
It’s the incontinent virgins that you really have to watch out for.
Just send Ol’ Duke your phone number…
“This isn’t like the time you bought a hamster, named it Virginity, and then lost it, is it?”
Interestingly ‘continence’ is not in the Concise Oxford dictionary (9th ed).
‘Incontinence’ is:
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unable to restrain movements of bowels or bladder or both
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lacking self-restraint (especially in regard to sexual desire)
I think your word is archaic.