How does one prepare for the US becoming fascist or breaking up?

Both you and your money. Plenty of places essentially allow you to buy a citizenship. But that assumes you can actually move your investments abroad.

Buy guns
Prepare for mass protests and mass worker strikes
Organize
Constantly be a thorn in the side of the government

I do wonder what the blue states can do to resist the coming fascism.

I don’t see either of these being of any use. Guns? You think your AK47 will stand up to the US army at your door? That’s just naive.

I suppose preparing for protests could be helpful. There may be supply chain disruptions and shortages. You might need to stay indoors for a while. I guess it’s good that we’ve all just had practice at these skills?

But I think the real options are either to keep your head down and continue on, or run to another country. And it’s not all that easy to move to another country.

Sure seemed to work in Afghanistan, well, that and some shoulder fired rockets. I’m sure Russia and China will happily supply arms to the resistance.

That’s an interesting use of the word “work”.

So, don’t just get an AK-47, move to a remote area in the middle of the mountains, complete with tunnel complexes from which you convince impressionable and desperate people to join in and commit suicide attacks.

You probably won’t live very long, but it’s possible that if enough people follow your example, it will somewhat annoy the military as they continue to kill you, your family, and your friends for the next 20 years.

As far as the use for some guns, it’s possible that there will be various forms of civil unrest, people committing suicide attacks from their mountain holdouts and stuff like that, where it is somewhat possible that being armed would make a difference.

Even the Roman Emperors paid lip service to the idea that the office of Emperor and the Senate were two coequal branches.

I don’t know if the military will go along with a fascist coup. the police will but I think the military are held to higher standards.

The US is definitely done. As I’ve said in other threads it was over when Trump got elected. There is no coming back from that.

I think the first step to prepare for the fall is for people to admit that things will never go back to the way they think it used to be, which I have known and been saying for almost 20 years now.

My kid is in NY, so I feel much better than having her here in Texas.

As to the question, a review of what industries tend to benefit from fascist governments would yield some good results. I assume investing in arm manufacturers would likely be a good play, military contractors as well. Stay away from Tech - the fascists have an axe to grind with Silicon Valley. Also, knowing who the big supporters are will help as their firms will get a lot of largesse.

I don’t know either, but I am damn certain they’re not wired to fight alongside a Leftist counterinsurgency if it comes to that.

While the higher command level officers are well-schooled in the necessity to “protect and preserve” the Constitution (Michael Flynn notwithstanding) you’ll find plenty of enlisted and even junior officers expressing pro-Trump support and barely restrained racism and bigotry, which has been a long standing problem (along with sexual and physical assault) that the military chain of command has been unwilling or unable to address effectively. And if Trump wasn’t such an absolute shit to high ranking Pentagon officers he might have had even more support among those ranks. Basically, I wouldn’t rely on military resistance if senior government officials are party to a quasi-fascist regime.

The idea of armed civilian resistance to tyranny with small arms and improvised weapons is mostly fantasy. Even if a partisan resistance could prevent the government from controlling a specific region, they idea of overturning a regime with control over military control and communications infrastructure isn’t remotely viable. At best, we’d end up with something like post-invasion Iraq or the “Warlord Era” of post-Beiyang era China where the federal government (or post-federal regional governments) control fragmentary parts of the country with massive disruptions in trade, communications, et cetera. Thank you, no. Better to invest the effort into fixing the structural problems which cause people to turn toward fascism or disruption in the first place.

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The military today will totally go along, they have been being worshiped for nearly 20 years now. I work with them, they actually believe they are doing good and will fight you if you disagree.

Don’t kid yourselves on this.

It’s a matter of which way things are going. FDR didn’t represent some regression compared to the great liberal utopia of Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding, or Calvin Coolidge. FDRs policies represented progress compared to those guys. Things got better, not worse, after FDR, with Dwight Eisenhower using the National Guard to enforce desegregation by force of arms, LBJ signing the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, and even Richard Nixon starting the Environmental Protection Agency, opening trade with China, and so on. Trump doesn’t want the best of FDR followed by the best of Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson. He wants the worst of FDR followed by the worst of Woodrow Wilson, Andrew Johnson, James Polk, and Andrew Jackson.

And Jefferson Davis.

It’s been a pretty good run in a lot of ways. We made it almost 250 years with an awkward, unrepresentative federalist system. One that we’ll refuse to significantly change until it fractures altogether.

I wonder who’s next on the list of long-running democracies and if they’ll surpass our streak? Or maybe have already?

The best way to prepare for any disaster or misfortune is to have a community of family and friends you can rely on. If you do not know your neighbors you are behind the power curve on preparedness.

In my case many of the neighbors are Trump supporters :cry:

The Republic of San Marino? In continuous existence since the 4th century AD (de jure), independent “de facto” from the papal states in the 13th century, and with what might possibly be the oldest written constitution still in effect in the world (the “statutes” from 1600, which make the core of the fundamental law of San Marino as amended in 1974 and 2002).

I’d say move to California, but the rednecks will try to break off to form Jefferson, so just let them go. They’ll think twice when they realize the blue part of the state won’t be financing them any more.