How does the Enterprise NX01 compare to modern warships?

Cafe Society
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SCENARIO: The Enterprise NX01 is destroyed by a Klingon bird of prey and a Borg cube that had “teamed up” to destroy the mighty Enterprise. As the ship is exploding, Picard pulls out a one time use time travel device from a hidden compartment in his bedroom and activates it, sending the NX01 back to the 21st century as of 2020. Picard knows he must destroy all of the current-time naval ships, as well as the majority of army and air forces if he wants to save humanity from doing a thing that will destroy them.

However, his NX01 ship is badly damaged, and has lost the ability to fly and instead must be sailed around on water like a normal ship. It’s max speed on water is 40 knots, and it’s max speed on ground is 20 kp/h. There are also no shields, and the NX01’s phasers are destroyed.

NOTE: Sorry for the messy weapon placements, but I haven’t really watched much of ST, so I don’t know what all the proper names are for their weapon placements.

It’s function weapons are:

x4 100 GJ Phasers, x2 on each side (starboard/port on top of saucer)

x6 tetyron guns, x2 on front top saucer, x2 on each rear end of nacelles bottom, x1 on bottom saucer starboard/port

x6 TR-116 dual turrets, x2 on both undersides of saucer, x2 on star/port of front underside saucer, x2 on star/port of ending of main body before nacelles underside (before the actual starting point of the nacelles)

Whole-body coverage of generic lasers, which are able to destroy RHIB boats, missiles, and aircraft, and have a range of 1000 meters.

x50 torpedos containing 1000 tons of TNT explosive force, range of 2000 meters, and speed of 90 kp/h, and a guided sensor of 5 meters adjustment per 100 meters.

How well does the Enterprise do?

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I believe you have your starships mixed up. Picard commanded the Enterprise-D, around 80 years after the Captain Kirk era. Jonathan Archer commanded the NX01—what, 200 years before Kirk?

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Are you referring the the vessel from Star Trek: The Next Generation (the NCC-1701D, commanded by Captain Picard), or the vessel from Star Trek: Enterprise (the NX-01, commanded by Captain Archer)?

You also say that the ship’s phasers are destroyed, but then list phasers among its armament. Which is it?

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Fictional weapons beat real weapons nine times out of ten in every million-to-one chance.

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I don’t really know. I thought the NX-01 Enterprise was the first Enterprise, and probably the weakest, since it’s using the most outdated technology, yet it’s still called “Enterprise”, and therefore a primary protagonist and not just some random drone. I guess it must the Captain Archer ship, then. However, er, I think that Picard would be better here, so let’s just say that a Q replaces Archer with Picard, and that the crew are happy to serve under him.

However, it should be noted that since I don’t really know much about ST in general, I would only assume that the NX-01 is inferior to the more modern Enterprises. But of course in these types of settings it could be equipped with some sort of “ancient alien ruins” tech that puts it far above anything the latest Enterprises.

The normal phasers that have 500+ GJ of energy are gone, but some weaker phasers with 100 GJ of energy are mounted on there. I think I forgot about them when I was setting the scenario up.

The transporters are also disabled, if the NX-01 was equipped with them, and is replaced by rocket shuttles, which can be manually equipped with atmospheric “thrusters” which allow the shuttles to move around like a futuristic VTOL.

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NX-01 had a transporter system, but they were afraid of using it to teleport people because it was such new technology.

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Intrepid-class starships like Voyager had landing capability, which I always thought was a bunch of hooey. Transatmospheric flight with a ship of that size and configuration would require massive amounts of energy just to dampen inertia (if such a thing is even possible), and it would probably collapse under its own weight on a 1g planet.

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You think landing on a planet takes more structural integrity than accelerating to Warp-9 in a matter of seconds?

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Accelerating inside a warp bubble would by definition place no stress on the structure. The ship would be frozen in its own frame of reference. It’s only when the warp bubble (or field) becomes unbalanced or begins to deteriorate that the structural integrity would be threatened.

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The idea is that the NX01 is placed on the Earth’s surface by a Q, you see. But it’s also placed on the water, which is can somehow float on, and it’s engine nacelles give it power to sail around. It can also scrape across the ground at 20 kilometers per hour by the sheer power of the engines. Oh, and let’s say that all the major countries of modern earth have all their naval, army and air force assets upgraded to their greatest ability, such as all vessels having railguns or equivalent, the latest and greatest engines, missiles, etc etc.

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Aha! Like an Unterwarpenboot! And once it recharges its anti-matter pods on the surface, it can submerge and hunt enemy wessels!

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You’re asking how a fictional ship would do, and then providing it with weapons it doesn’t have.

This line of questioning makes no sense.

“How would Godzilla do against Battlestar Galactica if he had an enviromental suit, could fly in space and was equipped with gatling lasers?”

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I’m just giving it less-powerful weapons than the original loadout. There’s a lot more to a ship than just the weapons, you know.

I thought the NX01 already had a lot of those weapons anyway.

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Whoa! That would be awesome! :cool:

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They surrender.

They negotiate with the U.S. to let them sail into San Francisco, and give themselves up. The U.S. gets the ship, plus all its knowledge, especially the computer files covering world history from now forward. (Of course, since we immediately change history, this is only of limited use.)

The U.S. also gets the technical specs which define what a phaser actually is, and how to make one. Inside ten years, all of our weapons systems are phaser-based. Tanks, fighter aircraft, satellites, all have phasers.

The Enterprise has just multiplied its prowess ten thousand fold. By surrendering,

(Picard wasn’t as foolish as some people thought he was.)

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Well, ok playing it seriously. Star Trek TOS (and i know this is before TOS) is self contradictory in how it can handle nukes. One ep has a nuke go off 100 meters away and handles it pretty well. While a different one mention how they are being intercepted by fighters that are possibly carrying nuclear tipped missles. (and act like this is dangerous)

My guess is that if NX01 has all these point defense weapons, there’s basically nothing modern forces can throw at it. On the flip side NX01 has photon torpedoes which can wipe out any force it wants to. 50 should be enough to wipe out pretty much all concentrations of nuclear weapons around the world. AND taking huge population centers with it.

As a contrast when a TOS era ship showed up in Archers time and eventually went to Earth…we don’t see the result, but I’m quite sure Empress Sato had no problem at all.

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Don’t forget to stipulate that Starbuck is riding a space unicorn that shoots rainbow lasers out of its ass. And also they’ve teamed up with Space King Kong, but Godzilla has teamed up with Space Mechagodzilla.

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While it’s nice to have new blood here, you might have noticed that the OP’s questions are always… a bit fantastical and convoluted. :slight_smile:

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Now you’re just being silly! :stuck_out_tongue:

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That’s how Starfleet comes to be based in San Francisco in the future? Nice.

Also, the NX-01 didn’t have phasers and shields as in TOS or TNG. She had a more primitive form of weapon called a phase cannon, although I imagine it would still be quite effective against 21st century Earth naval “wessels.” :smiley:

And in place of shields, the NX-01 polarized its hull plating, whatever that did.

I wonder how they would fare against the I.S.S. Enterprise with Empress Sato in the command chair.