You got the wrong sense. Perhaps you missed many of the relevant episodes, but it wasn’t about having a career first - it was about not wanting to have children period.
“Washy” was perhaps the wrong word. The writers gave themselves a back door in a far away corner, mostly due to the unreliable narrator; before that episode, they would have had to do some serious work to explain how Robin’s mind changed so completely.
How I met your mother. One of the characters doesn't want children, ever. Will this last? (spoilers)
{Shrugs} You have your hot-button issues, I have mine.
Ted stated that she never pole vaulted or whatever was his euphemism.Not that she never had kids.
He stated that she’d never be alone, because she always had her friends. I’m not sure how else anyone can interpret that statement. The episode also began with Robin talking to her future kids, who turned out to be the kids she would never have. There’s not a lot of room for confusion here.
The epilogue of the episode shows that Quinn is indeed a stripper at a place that Barney attends regularly and he does not recognize her at all, but she does recognize him.
The only way that Ted saying he loves Robin works as a plot point is if Barney appears over the wall and says the same thing 30 seconds later. Robin falls into Barney’s arms, who then enters into a long-term quandary because he really deeply loves and wants children.
All the discussion above about how impossible it would be for Robin to say she wants kids is dwarfed IMO by Ted saying it would be OK with him to not have them. It’s ludicrous. There’s no way Ted would be happy in a life without kids.
Pay attention, I’m going on record now. . .
My prediction: Robin leaves the group for a number of years. Barney marries Nora after a good talking-to by his Dad (and threats of violence by hers). Ted steals a yellow umbrella for the bride and it’s owner is Barney’s mythological sister.
I’ve never seen this show, but I was going to say this. I would only change the thought to “on TV no one ever has an abortion they don’t regret and no one is ever thrilled…”
Just once, I’d like to see a movie or TV show where a woman gets pregnant, has an abortion with a minimum of consternation over it (thinks through all possible choices but doesn’t agonize or moralize over it) and then just goes right on with her life, with no regrets, negative consequences, or repercussions at all.
But that would be too boring. Because sometimes it actually happens in real life.
I wonder if that is also the case for Ted. Could it be Ted’s son and daughter, who have appeared from the beginning… also do not exist? If they could do it with Robin, it is certainly a possibility for Ted.
That would explain how they can appear to sit through Ted’s long rambling story.
Even better, Danny Tannerwakes up and realizes it was all a dream!
Not bad, but the Mother had the yellow umbrella in earlier scenes.
They got pretty close to that with Christina from “Grey’s Anatomy” and her last abortion. There was a scene where she was laying it out for her husband - “I don’t want this baby. I don’t want ANY baby. I do not want to have kids, and I am GOING to have this abortion.” The problem with that is a childfree person married to someone who wants kids (that discussion should have taken place before any marriage), but I’ll still take it.
I watched a part of that. Didn’t he ask her to marry him after she told him she couldn’t have kids?
Yeah, but when she clarified that after she found out that she couldn’t have biological kids, her feelings that she didn’t want kids at all (biological or adopted) had solidified into a firm resolution, he backed out.
In more than one episode, over the years, he has said that Aunt Robin never had children.
Ditto on her feeling sad because the choice was taken from her and she feels like her body might be a tad defective, not because she suddenly wants kids.
Tad’s romances have been so bad because the girlfriend’s have been so icky. I suppose they don’t want the audience getting attached to someone who is not “the one”, but still, he needs a better quality of girl. Meet her, already.
And agreed, Lily’s father is horrible. Both the character and the actor. Yuck.
I still thoroughly enjoy the show, and the satisfying, chronologically twisted storytelling, and the sense of friends who stay friends in spite of disagreements and different interests.
This was not shown on camera, so it is speculation on your part that this was what happened.
My interpretation is that Robin wanted an out. She does not want to marry Kevin, but doesn’t want to come out and say that to him directly. Instead, she starts haranguing him about how he can’t possibly want to stay with her.
I believe Kevin really did want to stay with Robin, child or no. As a therapist, Kevin is smart enough to recognize what was behind Robin’s insistence. Either Kevin gracefully bowed out or he hung around for the nineteenth lap of “I’ll marry you no matter what, Robin”, and “I want you to really think about this, Kevin”.
Which part is speculation? Robin told Kevin onscreen that she didn’t want to have kids at all - and after she said that, Kevin stopped repeating his proposal.
(that being said, I kind of agree with your interpretation - Robin definitely seemed to be looking for a way to persuade Kevin to withdraw the proposal).
If you mean this part of my post “after she found out that she couldn’t have biological kids, her feelings that she didn’t want kids at all (biological or adopted) had solidified into a firm resolution” - yes, that was speculation.
in “the ducky tie” ep. earlier this season it was already hinted by victoria that a blow up between ted/robin/barney would eventually happen.
barney getting double crossed by robin for kumar then after having that decision blow up in her face goes back to ted instead? me thinks barney isnt going to take that very well.
the first time around ted was pissed at barney for hooking up with robin. now it looks like Barney will be the one feeling betrayed.
also still waiting on how barney gets stuck back in the ducky tie. since in a flashforward in “beercules” we see marshel winning at a games table at a casino and barney beside him with that damn tie back on.
I enjoy the speculation but feel compelled to really echo the fact that i too hate lily’s dad. what a weird, incongruous character. sure people on HIMYM are quirky but at least they’re competent real life individuals - not wacky cartoon caricatures. i’m glad they fudged with the continuity and didn’t have him at the long island house when barney and ted were there.
I came back to this thread because I remember you talking about how you wish there were more childfree plotlines and I was about to mention Cristina, but I guess you already know! Tonight’s episode is pretty heavy on it.