As a noob years ago I had to spend a couple weeks training all my learning skills up. A noob today won’t have to bother with spending that time. Giving me back the time I spent training to re-apply somewhere else does not seem odd at all.
Note the last line in what I quoted above:
“We also didn’t want to punish people for making sensible, long-term decisions in the past based on the best information available to them at the time, because this would be terrible design practice.”
Say I started a character a year ago and trained all my learning skills up first thing. That is a bit more than 5 million SP total, about 3 months of training (give or take).
If CCP took those points away from me it’d be like losing those three months of training and be as if I started 9 months ago rather than 12.
The newbie today comes out of the box training as if they have trained up learning skills.
So, to give me my SP back merely keeps me where I was. To take them away would be to remove training time I worked on. The newb is no further behind by giving my SP back. Yes I can put those points somewhere else giving me a seeming advantage over the newb but then they need not blow 3 months of training that I once did.
Makes a note not to tell Numbers-Bro about EVE. Sounds like the kind of stuff he could obsess about for years, and he currently has a life… as a kid, he used to play towel football(1) against himself without cheating.
(1) Two teams of playmobil dolls, a towel with a line in the middle and a big marble.
Just finished most of the basic career missions, now they tell me to go to a distant system to see SisterEVE somethingorother. Problem is, I have so much stuff I don’t see how I’m going to efficiently move it long distances in a reasonable span of time. I have an Iteron I, but checking the space I can only move about 5 packaged frigates at a time. Guess I’m slowboating it!
Also found that while an Industrial isn’t designed for mining per se, the cargohold makes it nice to set it/forget it for while
Train up for Iteron 5 instead, I know it is a different racial, but the innate cargo space, when you add t2 cargohold expanders and cargo rigs, it holds the most of any t1 hauler.
You have discovered cargohold expanders, right?:dubious:
Unfortunately my alliance is at war right now, or I would haul everything in a freighter and make it in one trip … or you can drop me a line in game, I have a couple non corp characters with haulers and I could give you a hand.
Razor isn’t currently dec’d (I don’t think).
I’d be happy to haul stuff around for you if you need help. Fair warning, I just moved my out of corp freighter alt into Razor (he’s also my Nyx babysitter alt) so if I get war dec’d I’d have to break the contract and give you back your stuff, but I can help you out.
Also fair warning, I’d be doing you a favor as a Doper. Expect other folks to scam the hell out of you and steal your stuff in general.
If you want to set up a courier contract, PM me and I’ll give you my hauler’s name. For security reasons I’d rather it not be public info.
Why? You can play as often or as infrequently as you like and after your initial signup fee you don’t have to pay anything at all (and I think you can even use PLEX to pay for that initial fee, too, maybe).
And if you are worried about turning into Darth Vader, you can have fun in EVE also …
I just skittered 34 jumps in null security naked in my pod from FIO to I-7 through Goonswarm space and Razor space. Wasn’t concerned with Razor but goons are only tentatively friendly and I usually had an escort of them chasing me =)
I don’t do it because of the whole “recurring payment” thing. And while it’s possible to pay for it with in game resources, if I can only dedicate an hour or two 3-4 days a week, am I going to be able to earn the amount needed to do that?
Actually, an Iteron 5 can hold more than any subcap hauler in the game including Transports (T2 haulers) if it is suitably pimped out.
On the downside they are made of paper and blow up if you look at them funny.
This is important to keep in mind when hauling your loot around. If your cargo is valuable enough people can and will pop your hauler even in hi sec. An Iteron 5 is so easy to blow up the person doing it won’t even lose much when they get CONCORDed.
Add another who will be happy to lend his freighter to helping haul. Only deal for me is my freighter pilot is in a WH so depending where the WH is that day the character may be close or far away. That character is not at war though so no worries on that count. Will go anywhere in hi sec.
One thing to note: Rigged ships will not fit in a freighter. For a ship to go in a freighter you need to re-package it which will destroy any rigs you have. As a result you need to fly the ships individually (if they are rigged) or use an Orca’s ship hangar if they can fit in there (my freighter pilot is also a pimped Orca pilot so can do that too).
I move my entire hangar from staging area to staging area each campaign, and every single ship I have is rigged. Just use a courier contract and rigged ships are 100% fine to transport in a freighter.
Probably not but it is possible to make enough in that time window to pay for the game. Depends where you are and what you’re doing. In theory you have up to 32 hours a month, making that much in that time is doable but if you are a new player almost certainly not.
Is the package a smaller size or the same size as an unpackaged ship? Unpacked I doubt you could fit more than two battleships in a freighter and given a freighter’s slow poke nature you are probably better off just flying the battleships.
Of course if you have a lot of frigs then that’d work nicely.
The ships are their assembled, rather than packaged size. That’s why having an OOC freighter alt that’s immune to wardecs is so useful. Just load it up, set it to autopilot, and set it to return and pick up another load a few hours later. You can do it with an in-corp freighter, but it’s more difficult if you’re dec’d. That’s also my OOC jump freighter alt. Took only a couple of months to train up for a Nyx but that also meant that I had to put him into corp to get him blue status.
Goons are strange - when we were a client/tenant of MH in FIO Goons were light blue to us. More than once they popped us in FIO, and if we ended up in a large fleet, half the time they would pop one of us. Now we are MH, they haven’t popped any of FINK, but I am always a bit twitchy around them.
We have the nicest german corp renting space from MH near us that we have fleeted up with to pop reds/neuts in our little corner of heaven.
As an aside - have you seen how close Goons JB comes to ORE space?
Finally made the plunge myself, and signed up for 3 months of this game. Finished all the basic missions and I’m starting up the Sisters of Eve arc. I badly want to get into an Arbitrator and have fun with drones, but I have to get my skills up first.
And I know I could have gone with Gallente (right?) if I wanted to really do drones, but I like the look of the Amarr ships better. I just like the Arbitrator for its flexibility, at least on paper.
