How is Mason1972's example worse than the Zimmerman shooting?

Read the goddamn affidavit against Zimmerman. Him chasing after Martin factored into probable cause.

Read the goddamn affidavit.

Why am I not surprised that this sounds like the narcissist prayer that Trump and his worshipers follow?

Read the goddamn affidavit already.

Here is a better link for the affidavit. It’s got a fair bit of editorializing in it, which is exactly what you’d expect from a document made to argue the prosecutor’s side of the case.

You mean the one that was disproven at the trial? Fine, I can read it, but I’m not sure what you expect me to learn.

You did either watch the trial or read transcripts of it, right?

And your cite shows that this is false - Zimmerman did not claim that Martin was suffocating him at the same time that he was screaming.

Yes, I know that is what you think. But what you allege that Zimmerman said is other than what he said, so you think Zimmerman is lying because you think he said something he didn’t say.

But the balance of the evidence indicates that it was Zimmerman who was screaming, just as you would expect someone to do when they have been attacked, and are having their head bashed on the ground.

I think we have already established that it is not reasonable to think that Zimmerman was holding Martin at gunpoint, so that part is probably not true. And most people who are bashing someone else’s head on the ground do not typically scream for help. So what you think is not backed up by any evidence.

Regards,
Shodan

I’ve been in a few, and I’ve seen a few. I have yet to see anyone intent on trying to suckerpunch someone from behind start pit bu first asking the intended victim a question.

What made you think the first punch came “from behind” or was ever intended to? Zimmerman’s statement to the police said “the suspect punched me in the face”. He had injuries consistent with this claim too.

The above statements underscore the degree to which Zimmerman supporters must mire themselves in willful obtuseness to go on believing this guy was a victim.

I swear Zimmerman could confess on live TV to killing Martin in cold blood and they will still insist this kid deserved what happened to him.

This is America.

Yes, our obsession with the facts, rather than mimicking your emotional response, is truly damning. Woe is us.

You mean the affidavit that says it does not contain all the pertinent facts and evidence in the case?

Regards,
Shodan

Yup, and if you’re not convinced by that, you should just listen to the prosecutor’s opening statement at trial. It’s positively damning.

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If something completely different to what actually happened, happened, the I would adjust my views accordingly. Please look at what you’re actually saying in your posts, they are all full of “what if’s”.

If a series of events for which we had no evidence occurred, then I might consider Zimmerman guilty. But for now, I will continue to believe that what happened is what the evidence shows, not what might have happened if your fantasies were true.