Yep they are fired up by apologists like Joe Rogan:
So the majority of MAGAs I would think are perfectly happy with an unelected man with numerous conflicts of interest here having absolute power over government agencies and all Americans’ private information.
But something something George Soros.
We have a loong way to go before the rubes start to smell a rat.
And Rogan doesn’t have a clue what he’s so upset about (like that’s a surprise),
Ah, I see, we do some “good things” in USAID as a cover story. I can’t really stand to listen to even clips of right wing talk shows. And the overall show is not quite in the style of MSNBC. I can’t really waste more thatn 5 minutes of any of these shows. Left or right. I already know all the facts and numbers reading what I read daily.
That was the point of the clip, every one of Rogan’s points was refuted with 30 seconds of Googling.
Finally, Q will be vindicated! Fie on all you disbelievers! And when this fails to materialize, they will just find more “evidence” out there to obsess over.
Oh, don’t be so sure. I’m setting up what needs to be done to get my kid out of Canada and to the UK in a way that ensures she’ll have resources there if our banking system is destroyed or taken over.
I did think about what you said, but you’re one of the few, and you only stood out because you actually seemed like you were trying to convince your child that life altering steps might be necessary.
Even then, though, I didn’t get the sense that you were pressuring them as if their life depended on it, or that you were preparing for global nuclear war, so even then, I don’t see you as coming close to “the worst” I had in mind. That would entail even more drastic measures that you haven’t mentioned yet.
painful reading… seems like out of Putin’s and Bannon’s playbook…
flood the área with shit,something Will stick
It’s genuinely scary: no one freaking knows. it’s gonna be bad, but if anyone says they know how it’s going to end, they are talking out of their ass. All the doom prophesies about Trump/GOP dictatorships lasting a generation, yeah that could happen, how likely is it? No one knows, it’s not “space aliens arriving and giving us the secret of eternal life” unlikely but other than that it’s impossible to say. These are genuinely unprecedented times.
The very thin silver lining is there are some OKish outcomes in there, like Trump and Musk do such an unbelievable job shitty job that there is an overwhelming Democrat majority and massive popular support for a big wealth tax on billionaires (but even that is not a guaranteed happy ending, we’d still have a supreme Court that makes Robert’s look liberal, and a country in a very very bad state)
The rubes (and even most of the media) still don’t smell the big rat when the right use emails when discrediting an enemy.
Some messages out of hundreds of thousands will be misquoted or misinterpreted or lied about. By the time it is disclosed how an email was twisted by Trump and Elon’s henchmen, the whole group will already be condemned and removed.
Same MO seen with the “Climate Gate” emails, Hillary’s, Hunter Biden’s, etc.
As for how it will end, I do expect to see it ending like the begining of Chaplin’s “A king in New York” with not only Trump fleecing the nation. But also a lot of the cabinet members getting a piece of the action.
I know several people in real life who are definitely “actually making major life decisions as if they truly believe that the worst is guaranteed to happen” because those things are already happening, including a couple working for USAID in Africa who have been essentially abandoned, a couple of professors at a major research university who run a virology lab and an epidemiology graduate training program who have already had to cut post docs loose and are facing complete defunding under RFK Jr and so despite having tenure are looking for positions in Canada and Europe, and a number of ‘queer’ people who are actively making plans to move to Canada or elsewhere because they quite legitimately fear that they are going to be the next group after ‘immigrants’ (which apparently includes a number of naturalized citizens and Puerto Ricans) to be persecuted by this regime.
This marginalization of entirely rational fears and concerns is nearly as bad as the people promoting the persecution in the first place. Bad things are in fact happening right now; just this morning, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., an avowed vaccine denier with no medical credentials and a multitude of ethical conflicts, a conspiracy theorist, and general wackinoid who has been condemned by his own family as a “predator” with “dangerous” views on accepted medical practices such as childhood vaccination, has been confirmed as the Secretary of Health and Human Services in a near-party line vote with 52 Republicans (only McConnell, ironically, has voted against both him and Tulsi Gabbard), including four Republican senators who are physicians. This is a party that has fallen in complete lockstep with Trump and the cult of MAGA despite the fact that he is taking executive actions over the Constitutional authority of Congress, and it is clear that they are neither going to do anything to stop him (i.e. vote to impeach and remove Trump from office) regardless of what he does or back any efforts by the courts to reign in the multiple violations of law and Constitutionally-defined authority that Trump and his Arch-President Elon Musk are taking to literally destroy entire Congressionally-approved departments and independent agencies and undermine lawful checks and civil rights on a scale and openness unseen in US history, period.
It does not take much imagination, and only a cursory knowledge of the history of European fascism and the distinct parallels to what is occurring right now, to see this regime taking a hard right turn into authoritarianism and mass persecution of anyone viewed as an opponent of the White Christian Nationalist agenda of Project 2025 (of which, despite Trump previously claiming that he didn’t know anything about it has aligned with a number of the executive actions and other activities that this regime has engaged upon in the past three weeks), with the Republican-dominated Congress shrugging their collective shoulders and saying, “Call somebody who cares,”, and the Supreme Court majority does their best pantomime of taking a giant dump on the Constitution and 235 years of legal precedent.
But hey, keep doing your schtick of telling people it will all be fine if they just call their elected officials and give them a piece of mind while ‘strategizing’ about the mid-term elections where a ‘Blue Tsunami’ is going to wipe out GOP control of the legislature fur sure this time. I’m sure there is nothing to worry about if people just stay put and don’t plan for the very things that Trump and his backers have been openly saying they intend to do.
Stranger
I have a friend on Facebook who is both queer and a US veteran. She contacted me the other day to ask how Canada was reacting to this, and what I thought her chances of being able to move here might be.
I assure you there are more than a few. And it’s ridiculous to suggest that planning to get my family out of the continent to a foreign country to avoid an American invasion is short of “the worst.”
Thin slicing between “the Americans are increasingly likely to invade my country and bomb us and kill Canadians by the thousand, I have to get my child to safety before the Americans kill her” and “Nuclear war” to say I’m not preparing for the worst is fucking insulting and borne of a shocking disregard for the gravity of the situation. Have you ever called up banks in a foreign country to see how best to get your kid’s money overseas so they won’t be homeless there when they flee their native land? I have.
I live next to a military superpower actively becoming fascist that for no reason other than imperialism sees Canada as prey. It’s the worst.
I was not saying that you weren’t preparing for what you think is the worst. I was saying that your concept of “the worst” isn’t the most extreme out there, that there are others who think that even worse will happen. I’m honestly baffled that you think that’s insulting or downplaying the situation.
After all (as far as I know), you haven’t built a bunker. You haven’t forcefully told your daughter that she must immediately abandon her entire life and flee or else she is going to die. You’re not living your life as if you were absolutely certain you and global civilization would be literally dead within two years in a blaze of nuclear hellfire. So yeah, as far as I know, you don’t have the most pessimistic outlook, and I absolutely reject the notion that that’s “thin slicing.”
Believe me, I’d love to be reasonably sure that working and putting money into a 401K wasn’t futile and incompatible with the future, but a casual reading of my posts will clearly show that I’m not. If you think I’m too optimistic for not abandoning my mortgage to spend all my available funds on canned food, I’m honestly concerned that you’re right. To be frank, if I were truly convinced that “the worst” as I see it would definitely happen, I am not sure I’d be alive right now.
This applies to Stranger on a Train too.
I have already made major life decisions because of the current situation.
I was supposed to retire sometime between May and October 2025 but I have now delayed that indefinitely and feel safer just continuing to work. I have no retirement plans at all.
I was going to sell my house and find an apartment. Another major life decision delayed due to the unpredictable situation.
I was going to buy a new car but that seems out of bounds for now due to unpredictable tariffs.
I call these major life decisions.
Sure, but you’re still assuming that money will still be worth something in the future. You still think that working a normal job is worthwhile to you. You still seem to believe that a car will be available to you someday. So as far as I’m concerned, you’re relatively optimistic about the future, certainly in comparison to some.
Well my only other option is self euthanasia at this point which I am reluctant to consider but it’s on the table.
Yeah, well, that’s what I keep an eye out for: reasons to NOT just rip apart my life as it is now. That’s definitely a potential part of it.
So your definition of “optimistic about the future” is not immediately committing suicide?
Stranger
I’m saying that people who feel they have something to live for are more likely to fight to stay alive, and vice versa. I didn’t realize that was controversial.