How it all began; How it all ends.

I have a theory that explains how the universe and all life was created, and how it will all end. It also helps to explain how if time travel is ever possible, why don’t we see travelers from the future. And how we avoid the killing-our-father paradox.
What I propose is the Paradoxal Creation of the Universe.

Imagine if you will, a date far into the future - thousands of years. Man has mastered space travel and begins working on the first time machine protoypes. As you can imagine, such a device requires and extremely large amount of energy. The time machine itself is actually located in space somewhere next to a supermassive star to provide this energy. Either that, or they combine a type of fusion with the BTU energy produced by harvested humans… whatever, Im no scientist. Point is, they have this huge Time Machine facility way out in space somewhere.

The day comes when they are finally ready for the test run. The switch is pulled and it causes catastrophic results. A huge gravity well is created, quickly (by space terms anyway. Maybe it takes a couple years or centuries or something) drawing in all matter in the universe into a singularity at the Time reactor. The entire system - all matter in the universe - is sent billions of years into the past where it violently explodes!! Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you The Big Bang.

All life continues to repeat itself in this manner. Everything is done exactly the same each time. Every molecule ends up in the exact same place, every being and every event happens exactly the same. I have probably posted this a million times. And I’ll post it infinitely more. This loop goes on for eternity.

We see no time travelers, because existance ends during the first attempt. There was nothing before the Big Bang, because time is a cicular loop.
All matter and energy was created paradoxally during the big bang. The big bang was both the begining and ending of existance.

Buy me a root beer some day and I’ll tell you about my time travel machine requiring only a replica of my friend Max made out of antimatter, a giant flashlight, and a large hollow marble.
It’d work, I tell ya.
Eh. I’m sure the government’ll give me a grant.

It would be an interesting sci-fi story if it weren’t for the logical holes. When the machine creates this time portal, and gravity collapses, wouldn’t the destruction of the machine cause the portal to cease or does it still exist afterword? Also, if it were creating a “black hole” (you mentioned singularity), it still wouldn’t suck up the ENTIRE universe. There are tones of black holes out there already, and they certainly aren’t sucking up the entire universe out of existance (at least, not anytime soon).

Sorry, I don’t mean to shoot you down or anything. If possible, come up with counter points for the 2 dumb questions I had. This could turn into a nice story itself if we all throw in.

Once the “portal” is opened, that’s it. Everything happens instantaneously. I was misleading when I said it would take years or centuries for everything to collapse. That would be how it appeared to an outside observer. But no one can exist outside the system (the universe). So to all involved, the event would be instantaneous. Once cant say ‘after the machine is destroyed’… because there is no “After”. The only linear ‘after’ is ‘before’.

The ‘portal’ does not create a blackhole as we know it. But more like a supermassive singularity. It draws in all matter and time and gets stronger and faster exponentialy. The destruction of the machine is irrelevant at this point. Once the switch was thrown, everything was thrown in motion.
The switch was activated, a massive singularity was created which existed both at the end (the present) and the begining (billions of years ago). Time doesn’t quite exist as we understand it at this point.
Once every last bit of matter, space, and time - all existance - had been sucked in, the hole explodes violently. The portal collapses in the present and the explosion sends all matter, space and time violently expanding in the past. This event is the Big Bang as we know it.

It’s not really a portal though. The only thing that exists in the past, is this singularity. Everything gets compacted into nothing and sent to the past where it finally explodes.

Man creates himself and all existance. All that is, always was, and forever will be.

Maybe the reason people get de ja vu, is because they are made up of exactly the same particles in exactly the same configuration as they have been an infinite amount of times before. And they are doing exactly what they did before. Perhaps the molecules in the brain retain a certain memory of events so to speak.

It’s not exactly ‘fate’, but every mistake you’ve ever made, or ever will make… you’ll make it for eternity.
Please feel free to help out where it’s needing…

Wait. Where does all this motive energy come from? The energy provided to the time machine by a single star would never be enough to overcome the inertia of every particle in the universe, regardless of the star’s mass. In fact, it would seem to me that your proposal would require more total energy than currently exists in the whole of the universe. After all, you’re talking about an amount of energy sufficient to instantaneously attract all the matter and energy in the universe, compress it into the original hyper-singularity again, and transport it back in time billions of years. This would seem to be a violation of the First Law of Thermodynamics.

Then there’s the question of where all that energy goes once the hyper-singularity is repositioned at the beginning of time again.

I’m assuming that you’re not speaking in multiversal terms, and that your experiment does not tunnel into other universes. This would seem to be a reasonable assumption, since “dimensional leakage” would introduce a source of error, thus making it unlikely that “Every molecule ends up in the exact same place, every being and every event happens exactly the same.”

Unless you somehow reason that the experimenters, perhaps accidentally, borrowed a lot of energy from one or more other universes to accomplish the experiment, and somehow in the transfers back and forth, the energy was returned to the other universes and the “breach” sealed, releasing the energy and matter in this universe in the Big Bang.

Maybe you could approach the story as sort of a monstrously complex three-body problem. :slight_smile:

Ok… I can go with that. :wink:

Hey, if people can ignore the actual energy requirements of WARP travel, they can work with me a little on this. Don’t you think?

Anyone want to offer an outrageous explanation for how this could happen? Or elaborate more on the “Let’s steal energy from other dimensions” theory.

Maybe they are not by a huge star. Maybe they are by a worm hole they found. And they steal energy through this worm hole from alternate universes.

It is possible we could say that all the molecules do not have to end up exactly the same everytime. But I believe they would. If anything happened differently, then the time travel experiment may not occur… thus a paradox. Everything has to happen exactly the same. All events in time must exist together. The entire space-time loop is set.
Otherwise, we would have to say “fate” makes the time travel experiment happen each time. And if one time it does not happen, then existance cannot begin, therefore life never started… our paradox. So everything must happen exactly the same everytime. And it only makes since, because the past and future go together. Change one, and you have to change the other. Then there is no loop. Just a line where life is destroyed and made again, over and over and over. Which, if I understand it correctly, is what we have now anyway. The universe will contract on its own and explode again… but things will not happen the same as it did. Because time would go on linearly. This is a loop where we actually create our own existance…

I beleive Nietzsche held very similiar views about the “time-loop” but without your exact specifics.

All I can add is, “eh.”

Loits of people have, bookbuster. The idea has been around a long time as a subset of the “Big Crunch” theory…completely speculative, of course. IMO, the likelihood of a Big Crunch is very small, and I believe the universe is destined for heat death. However, if the BC were anthropogenic, that might be interesting. I’d like to know where the specific story is, however.