How long should I wait before I call her?

Dating 101 based upon my experience:

Call too soon = desperate
Call too late = irritating and disinterested

Thus, the “Two-Day Rule”. It all depends when you get the number.

Saturday Number = Call Monday

Friday Number = Call Sunday night

Thursday Number = Call Sunday night. The extra day is allowed because you don’t want to call people on Saturday to set up dates. Never call on a Friday or Saturday. It just looks bad.

When calling, I usually ask what she likes to do for fun. Then, I ask for a date on the following Friday or Saturday night. It’s her choice unless I already have plans for one of those nights. If she can’t do that, then I might opt for a weeknight, lunch, coffee, or the following weekend.

If you get voice mail when you call, leave a SHORT message WITH YOUR NUMBER in the message. “Hi, this is Bearflag70, and I’m calling to see if you’d like to go out sometime. Give me a call if you want. My number is 555-1212. Bye.” If she doesn’t call back within three to five days, call back with the same message prefaced with “I don’t know if you got my last message…” If she doesn’t call after that, drop it.

When coversing, if I don’t have a preconcieved idea of what to do on the date, I tell her the entertainment portion of the newspaper comes out on Thursday and that I’ll call her Thursday afternoon or evening with a plan and to get directions to her place to pick her up.

On Thursday, I look at the paper and come up with one or two fun things to do. Picking one is better because it shows you’re decisive. If you really don’t know much about her and find two possible activities, then let her pick from the two. Don’t give more than two choices because you then look too indecisive.

Avoid movies on the first two or three dates. They are a waste of time. Typically, the goal is to get to know someone and whether you want to continue dating. You can’t do this while sitting silently in a movie for 50% of your date.

Remember, the other person has lived a life before the date, has varied interests (hoperfully), has goals, works or goes to school, has a family, friends, maybe roommates, has beliefs, pets, hobbies, experiences, maybe travels, etc., and so do you. There should be enough to talk about for a couple dates without running too dry.

After the first date, ask if she wants to go out again. If yes, a brief hug should do, with a statement that you had fun, thanks for coming out, and a statement that you will call her.

If your first date was a Friday or Saturday date, call Sunday and thank her for going out. Ask her out again. Repeat.

I am female, married, also glad not to need my Freaky Guy Radar anymore!
Giraffe - I laughed out loud here at work. SO true!
Bearflag70 has the winnning combination. Follow his advice. :slight_smile:

I happen to have had my FREAKY GUY radar activated long ago. If I think a guy is even remotely freaky, then I won’t give him the number in the first place. I am just saying it is okay to call in the morning. So long as you don’t call back ten minutes later becuase she hasn’t called you back, and then ten minutes later and, then again ten minutes later, and so on, I won’t think it’s freaky. I would be flattered that someone was so excited to meet with me.

As someone with a fair amount of recent dating experience, I fully concur with the women- call her already! Meeting her Saturday and calling on Monday/Tuesday is perfectly acceptable and non-desperate. However, if you’d called her at like noon on Sunday, that might have been a bit strange.

In addition to the above advice, I strongly agree with Greck 's opinion that you should have a plan. You don’t have to have some sort of epic date planned out, but definitely have a few places in mind for lunch/coffee. Putting women on the spot for where to go on a date is generally not a winning strategy. They’ll let you know if they don’t like your plan, and you can switch to one of your alternates.

Finally, don’t seem over-eager or too interested. You want to be a little mysterious and make her more interested, instead of coming across as desperate. To that end, ask her out for drinks or dinner on a weeknight. For some reason, that seems to be a winning plan for first dates in my book.

Read the Swingers Rules (from the movie)- they hold remarkably true, even if you wouldn’t think so.