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Good article about how hard they had to work and the challenges they faced. I was familiar with most of the story, but I like to know that artists can make it with out MTV and the Top 40 airplay.
SSG Schwartz
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Wow. I had actually reported Ogre’s post as blatant threadshitting (to no apparent avail), but after reading this inept, nearly retarded article, I wonder if there’s a way I can rescind that report? If the ICP is to be judged by their supporters, the linked article does them way more harm than good.
[QUOTE=Ogre]
Great fucking Christ. The SDMB is not at all what it used to be.
[/QUOTE] Ogre – threadshitting isn’t what it used to be either, it’s become way too common. You will kindly desist. If you’re not interested in a topic, then don’t read the thread and don’t post to it. It is possible for people to have different music tastes than yours, and to discuss it, without you coming in to rant and rave.
And, lissener et al, please, a little patience when you report something. We’re not here 24/7.
[QUOTE=lissener]
Wow. I had actually reported Ogre’s post as blatant threadshitting (to no apparent avail), but after reading this inept, nearly retarded article, I wonder if there’s a way I can rescind that report? If the ICP is to be judged by their supporters, the linked article does them way more harm than good.
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How so?
And if you ask me judging ICP by their supporters is about as effective as judging anything by its supporters. Judge ICP for who and what they are, not for who supports them.
[QUOTE=DWMarch]
And if you ask me judging ICP by their supporters is about as effective as judging anything by its supporters. Judge ICP for who and what they are, not for who supports them.
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But ICP’s most vocal supporters ARE a few rungs lower than the fans of most other things.
I remember ICP came to upstate New York during their heyday and some cable access music show did a report from the concert. People were beating the shit out of each other and this one drunk/stoned guy was feeling up his girlfriend while screaming “ICP rules!” at the interviewer. Then he pulled her shirt down and started screaming louder and she was too drunk/stoned herself to notice.
I’ve met some perfectly great people that also happened to be fans of ICP, but in my experience the most devoted “Juggalos” are assholes, plain and simple.
Heh…I got Riddle Box after my brother an ICP promotional demo. Well produced, silly, fun album. He and I and another friend in on the joke went to a show about 11 years ago. I think there must have been hundreds of gallons of Faygo thrown, sprayed and spilled at the House of Blues. I remember wishing I had something to put on my carseats when we left because we were so wet and sticky.
Don’t know any of their other stuff, but I must admit to a fondness for The Great Milenko. Hell, anyone who consorts with the Master can’t be all bad, right?
And truly, those last posted lyrics certainly are appealing…
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But ICP’s most vocal supporters ARE a few rungs lower than the fans of most other things.
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The most vocal supporters of anything typically are. I’m a Whedon fanboy for instance, but reading *Buffy * and *Firefly * threads on this board and others dedicated to them almost make me ashamed to be a fan, sometimes.
I love Morton’s List (which is a game, not a song or band), and I love the fact that Psychopathic or whatever they’re called actually bails Morton’s List players out of jail at tournaments. The music, though–I could do without ever having to hear one of their songs again.
[QUOTE=Justin_Bailey]
But ICP’s most vocal supporters ARE a few rungs lower than the fans of most other things.
I remember ICP came to upstate New York during their heyday and some cable access music show did a report from the concert. People were beating the shit out of each other and this one drunk/stoned guy was feeling up his girlfriend while screaming “ICP rules!” at the interviewer. Then he pulled her shirt down and started screaming louder and she was too drunk/stoned herself to notice.
I’ve met some perfectly great people that also happened to be fans of ICP, but in my experience the most devoted “Juggalos” are assholes, plain and simple.
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For that matter. let’s include the Deadheads who sell tye-dies and comfort, the Parrotheads who wash their BMW’s and wish they could live on the sea, but would have to give up their 401k’s. For that matter, I attended a Quiet Riot concert and was bounced about by assholes. None of the above had Juggalos dancing in a Faygo rain.
FTR, the writing in that article is awful. I can’t make it through the second part of the dark carnival story or whatever. I get that they have this uprising-of-the-poor thing going on, but there’s nothing very original about that. The quasi-syndicalist utopian message was around in Tupac’s day and can be found in any number of other contemporary rap crews.
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For that matter. let’s include the Deadheads who sell tye-dies and comfort, the Parrotheads who wash their BMW’s and wish they could live on the sea, but would have to give up their 401k’s. For that matter, I attended a Quiet Riot concert and was bounced about by assholes. None of the above had Juggalos dancing in a Faygo rain.
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To echo…
It’s been many years since, but I’ve been to a number of ICP concerts. Idiots attending? I guess. Assholes though? Never a single one.
I too have met a number of idiot Juggalos, but no asshole ones yet. Maybe because they have a relatively productive (at least, not-antisocial) way to vent their anger. I’m a major proponent of violent video games for the exact same reason: better to get your anger out vicariously through your entertainment than to lash out at the people around you.
