Right. Now once you admit that propaganda can be true, we can move on with life.
Speaking of mangling quotes?..
Looked right to me.
Gonna admit that propaganda can be right now?
Tsk, tsk! Intentionally misquoting is a no-no, you know. But I expect such childish tactics from Moore-ons. Not the first time the board Left has intentionally misquoted me., and certainly won’t be the last.
Sure. Triumph of the Will had many accurate scenes. I would certainly place F911 right up next to it, in terms of objectivity, accuracy, and intent.
The left ignored Brock’s work when it was released because it was lies and propaganda, bought and paid for by the conservative movement. Brock himself admitted as much in the prologue to Blinded By the Right:
The left was right: Brock’s work was propaganda. Brock has since admitted it and changed sides.
It’s just silly to compare Moore’s work to that of an admitted conservative progandist.
The Daily Show is a comedy show. It’s like Saturday Night Live. Ya know? A comedy show. Comedy shows do things to fool people. Like Candid Camera would hide a camera and engineer a hilarious situation. What does the Daily Show have to do with Moore’s work?
That isn’t a misquote, it was in brackets. You know, like when you are replacing what someone mumbled with something accurate.
Pooor victimized Brutus.
Then we’re in agreement. F-9/11 may or may not be propaganda, but that has no relevence on the accuracy of its content (which you still do not know and have no basis to comment upon).
some do not have a need to know.
Actually, it was. You ‘quoted’ and intentionally typed in something other than what I said. Like I said, no biggee. It has happened before, and will happen again. Such are the ways of people like you.
Don’t weasal on me now, kid. You already admitted that F911 was propaganda, no backing off on that. And just like Triumph of the Will, it may be chock full of technically accurate snippets, but they arranged in such a way as to make the whole work a sham. Propaganda, designed to pimp a POV, not to inform or educate.
Why can’t you guys just admit that simple fact?
No skin off my teeth if you don’t understand reference and quoting standards.
Your behavior is that of a seventh grader, but your knowledge is at least tenth!
You may view it so. In order to do so, you would have to make it qualify as “systematic”…
OK, fine, if you’ll admit that F-9/11 is true.
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…Your behavior is that of a seventh grader, but your knowledge is at least tenth!
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Devolved to grade school, have you? It’s like Flowers for Algernon before my very eyes.
Adding in your own qualifiers? What sort of bullshit is that? Lets stick with the dictionary definition of propaganda:
Yep. F911 is propaganda.
It is ‘true’ in the same sense that Triumph of the Will is ‘true’, no more, possibly less.
Funny, Brutus, don’t you usually use dictioanry.com?
No matter. F-9/11 may indeed be propaganda -
“Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause”
Fine by me.
(BTW, you seem to have messed up your quotes again. I would fix it for you, but you would cry about it for HOURS.)
On one hand, you haven’t seen it, you have no qualification to say if it is true or not.
However, whatever. Thank you for accepting the factual basis of Mr. Moore’s proaganda. I do hope that we will hear no more crying about Mr. Moore lying from you, though we have yet to convince Mr. Stone of this fact.
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Moore is EXACTLY like David Brock. So the left dismisses or attacks propaganda which doesn’t fit its world view, but embraces that which does.
This is not unique to the left. The right does the same thing. Just admit that you like the movie because it gores an ox you desperately want gored, and because it does so you’re willing to overlook the fact that it is a dishonest piece of slanted propaganda.
Yes, I know. I said so in my message. My point was that the same techniques the Daily Show uses to skewer its guest are employed by Moore for much more insidious reasons.
As friend Brutus has agreed, it is most certainly an accurate piece of propaganda, slanted though the truth may be.
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Zagadka, Brutus, deal with your personal issues in the Pit. You have several posts in this thread that are no more than swipes at each other, and I don’t care who started it, you’re both ending it. That goes for all of you. Brutus, don’t call posters “Moore-on[s]”. Zagadka, don’t imply Brutus is a seventh-grader.
Hrd2hndl, do not use the Putz! smilie at another poster in Great Debates.
This thread is such a damn mess and lightning rod for partisian bickering that I’m tossing it to the Pit. You guys can flame each other all you like there.
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I don’t have any personal issues. I’m glad that Brutus was able to see the glorious light of the truth and finally accept F-9/11 as the truth.
You really are like a stupid little child, aren’t you?
Stupid like a FOX!
Seem to have backed you into a nice little corner.
I plan to feed you Cheeze-Its and dress you in a bonnet while you’re there.
See what you’ve done! Now, if I want to speculte further on the potential of the delightfully equine Ms. Coulter as an auteur, I have to go slumming in the Pit!
(Better check and make sure my shots are up to date…)
Bring it on! Bring it on, most definitely! Surely there’s enough money out there in the howling right to finance a Coulter movie. Pretty sure it would crater, but it would be interesting to see what happens, no matter what.
But someone’s gonna have to teach her how to blink.
By the way, you are given a blank canvas, and “you’re stupid” is the best insult you can come up with?
Maybe I shouldn’t take too much pride in this victory.
Sorry, the bait was too tempting. But hte fireball was pretty cool, right?
Come to think of it, this is my first visit to the Pit. I sure hope Brutus doesn’t follow up on “Moore-on” and “stupid” with “dorkus malorkus”… don’t think I could handle that.