They can’t be EXACTLY the same. Brock has repudiated his own work. Moore stands by his.
There’s a difference there, yes?
Well, right. But you never gave an example of Moore employing those techniques. In fact, you never even mentioned Moore or his work is your post about the Daily Show. So why bring up the Daily Show at all?
I probably wouldn’t see it - and so I wouldn’t feel qualified to pontificate endlessly on its shortcomings and biases like some people feel able to do about Moore’s films without seeing them.
It goes beyond simple repudiation, which could cover simply changing one’s views about the facts. Brock acknowledged fabricating a number of things he presented as fact. Moore has yet to be shown to have fabricated a single thing. The movie you’re trying to find some way to denounce that you can feel good about is footage of the actual events as they occurred.
So, Sam, tell us how you concluded that lying is “EXACTLY” like telling the truth? Is that how you were raised?
And when were you planning to actually see the movie?
I’d see a movie by Ann Coulter. Especially it was a gripping thriller about a maverick policewoman fighting the system.
CHIEF OF POLICE: You’re out of order, Seargent Coulter!
COULTER: No, chief, you’re out of order. This whole freakin system’s out of order.
CHIEF OF POLICE: You can’t talk to me like this that. You’re on probation!
COULTER: I knew it from the start, Chief. You’re a liberal. A traitor to this country. She goes to the window
There are a lot of good, freedom loving Americans out there. I know them. They carry picture of George Bush around in their wallets. But criminal loving liberals like you have invaded the system, and are hell bent on destroying this country.
Well I’m sorry, Chief. I can’t let that happen. I won’t let that happen. And I can’t let that happen.
She strips down to a skintight leather suit, and pulls out a cannon-sized machine gun.
This is for the second amendment!
She blasts the chief into oblivion.
Chief: Noooooo! That refers only to organised militiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh…ugh
He dies. Coulter takes out her cellphone.
Coulter: Hello? Rush. It’s done. Now we can run away to Cocobana.
And when the recent Catwoman was cast starring Halle Berry, do you think, for one minute, that any of those faggotty-assed Hollywood liberals ever even considered Anne Coulter!
Yes, i would see a movie by Ann Coulter, although i’d probably wait until it came out on DVD/video.
Coulter came to speak at my university last year, and i went to see her. I’ve also read one of her books cover-to-cover (now that deserves an endurance award) and chapters of her other stuff, as well as a few of her online articles.
I thnk it’s good to know your enemy–not just who she is, but what she says–without simply relying on second-hand information.
Here’s what appears to be a low budget (i.e. from a poor White man) film criticizing Moore. The film comes out in the “Summer of 2004” – all you have to do is find the theater -
Here is the book description to a better publicized, and more available, version of Moore in book form — titled Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man. This is at Amazon -
Well, if you go here you can find out for yourself. Treason is the book i read, and Amazon has about 7 pages from the first chapter available for online examination.
Now that this thread is in the Pit, I’d like to say that I would be eager to see a movie made by Ann Coulter if she was the protagonist and it involved her in a ballgag, stocks and a spreader bar being reamed up the butt by a group of successively larger-cocked liberals, finishing with none other than Bill Clinton.
I doubt if Anne would make such a movie, but if she does, she’s got my ten bucks!
I’m not sure I care to invite the inference that Mr. Clinton is the largest we can provide. And this is quite apart from the fact that the particular oeuvre you discuss isn’t exactly my glass of tea.
Sam, would you take a minute to read the linked post and explain which of the following propoganda techniques MM uses in F-9/11? Can you back up you accusations with examples?
It is by being able to spot these techniques when they are used by both sides that we can start to have a little objectivity about how our buttons are being pushed.
Please excuse that most of the examples that I gave are biased for the Left.