Care to point out exactly where I was disingenuous? Where I was a jackass?
At this rate fizzes is going to have 300 posts tomorrow, and I will have half of them.
The reason for this, just so people don’t think I am not taking the very advice I gave another in a similar situation, is that she and I are house-sitting and there is one computer. As the lady we’re sitting for did not give permission to download any programs (and which is why I haven’t installed my game on here), I have not downloaded any web browsers, and she only has IE.
Gotta bear with us until … Friday, I think. Let’s see if I can keep her under 350 posts until then:D
Oh, and I’m sure that your sudden interest in my postings has nothing to do with person you’re living with. :rolleyes:
I was gonna say that the above was one nasty simulpost, but then I saw the posting times.
Anyways, I’m sure you’ll continue to “participate” in the thread for as long as you wanna, luc. I never had the power to stop you. You just look like a whiny crybaby to me doing it.
By all means, keep going. I’m finding it very entertaining.
Thanks 
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You are of course entitled to your opinion. It’s interesting how folks keep trying to shift the focus of the discussion away from collounsbury and his (mis)conduct. But hey, nothing like a little ad homenim action – following the true spirit of collounsbury I suppose.
lucwarm, perhaps in your haste (which evidently lasted almost 15 minutes after my post) to castigate my fiancee you missed this tiny nugget of information:
Now, were this almost any other doper I would assume some ability to read and parse sentences properly. However, clearly we have a special situation here, so please bear with me while I break out the flash cards and picturebook.
Right, then. See, I (iampunha) mistakenly (that is, without intending to) posted as her (fizzestothetop). As such (due to this fact, because of, as a result of), the post above (that is, if you look UP in this thread you will see posts that appear to have been written by her) with her (fizzestothetop’s) name beside them (to the left, which is that hand where your pointer finger and thumb make an L). This is because, as I previously stated (but as I have learned in this thread, even repeating one’s self ad nauseam, is largely useless for some), I mistakenly posted as her.
I assure you that fizzestothetop does not see “oh, iampunha has some idjit yapping at his heels. Here, honey, let me get the putzrifle and clear that away for you.” She has her own posting style and her own posting tendencies, which you would know if you knew her, though that didn’t stop you from assuming the worst merely because she DARED oppose the great lucwarm.
So, in conclusion: bugger off.
Hey, haven’t I already mentioned how much I enjoy when he gets all superior and nasty? Again, that’s just my preference. Others may enjoy whining and foot stomping more. To each his own.
Give it a rest. All you had to do was say “oops, I mistakenly posted as fizzes.” In hindsight, I see what you were trying to say. But look, you made a mistake and as a result of that mistake, I drew an incorrect conclusion. BFD.
And I note that you still haven’t answered my question(s).
lucwarm, you of all people, who failed to grasp on several occasions the concepts “no, I didn’t say that” and “here’s what I actually said, again”, should not be complaining that I lengthily explained what happened to you or that I was curt at all. And your incorrect conclusion came roughly 15 minutes AFTER I posted what had happened, though in retrospect I see that I should have used a banner advertisement, because clearly posting in bolded/underlined/italicized/all-caps font is not enough when dealing with you.
I will answer your questions when you show me that you are able to debate using methods other than “huh?” and “but you said something else!” (when this is not true) and “WAAH!” And I ain’t holding my breath.
Wednesday: Pop quiz on GD use:
Which of the following statements is acceptable at GD according to recent explainations of where the line is drawn?:
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In those witless, droning repetitions of arrogant attacks,
your fucking posts reflect sociopathic use of the language for the apparent purpose of demeaning the viewpoints expressed by others. -
You butthole!
Hmm, this might stop short of six pages, which would be unlucky.
Ah, one of my favorite idiots in residence. Well lucy my dear, instead of the partial quote, let us go for the whole kit and kaboodle, eh what? Just for the context
First, the original quote in its full splendour:
Highlights added for the reading impaired, the sub-literate and the plain stupid. My dear fellow may very well fall into all three categories.
As we can see rather easily, the thrust of the paragraph, its intent, is to mock. Humorous complaint – already by this stage in the thread it is fairly obvious that no one can agree on what an “example” is, and in the end only the Mods count. So I go on about missed Pit Threads.
Then our dear humorless fool, that would be you, counts “five examples” – never mind this has already been covered – and asks how many more I would like. In my own special idiom, which consistently goes right over your pin head, I say:
For those of you who missed this, the first italics part was a Monty Python reference, I’ll let you guess which sketch.
In other words moron boy, I’m mocking you. I should hardly think I would be so stupid as to expect any kind of rational organization of thought etc. from a fellow who asks others to summarize his arguments rather than clearly stating them himself. Cowardice or stupidity in that case, I know not.
You pushed it over six, Coll. You shootin’ for a record?
Now as to Sam’s comments.
It is a pity Sam mixed some valid and well-taken observations which I consider on point criticisms with his usual whinging on about ‘decline’ and so forth.
Better part of two years now I believe that drum has been beaten. I take it to mean, given Sam’s reactions to others, that unless some silly statement of his is treated with kid gloves, the discourse is coarsened. It’s a pity this whinging had to be mixed with otherwise interesting obs on the GD - assertions to be sure based on his opinions, but such is the habit. I very much doubt that GD has coarsened at all - I recall when joining the drag out fights over Clinton. But I suppose the ideology rather screens the recollections.
Nevertheless, if we abstract away from this, I see Sam’s point. I do add, however, that the very fact there is banning makes a comparision to the USENET silly.
Nonetheless, having raised the issue, I shall ponder it and reflect on refining my aim.
As to the assertion, by the way, that I would have failed a debate class, my dear as always I had top marks in my class. Top marks, but the GD is not a classroom and I rather like fencing.
I consider five an unworthy number. In any case, as you see, although I think you spoiled your critique with false claims of “decline”, I do think you had valid points and am thinking about them. I’m not an unthinking monster after all.
Six pages, Sam … one for each finger.
And yes, I am aware that to at least three people this makes me look like Col’s lap dog. The drooling idiocy (I am quickly becoming fond of this phrase inasmuch as it characteristically pisses the idiot off) of one has been shown to the point where I am beginning to feel sorry for him. The notes of the other two have garnered responses. I happen to enjoy reading Col’s posts, with noted exceptions and points against his style. Hell, if my defense of Col (which, as I’ve said, is more addressing idjits than praise of his inerrant behavior and posts) constitutes lapdoggery, then I must be able to bilocate, because I’ve done the same for several people. Monty, Polycarp, Bluesman, etc.
Duuuuuuuhr. “One for each finger on his left hand.”
I would mess up that reference…
Ahem. Ahem. Six fingers? 8.
I am not always on the same side of the fence as Collounsbury, but I like him.
I can not see that he has been so rude.
He has the value of beeing situated “at the other side”, and that is fucking needed on this board.
Here is too many guys that are just staring at their navel, believing that world consists of 100 miles radius from their homes.
Just a thought, but I am a raving rasist anyhow…
Sam
It is interesting that you pointed that out. I believe it was Gaudere herself who once raised exactly that point when commenting on a right moral imperative. That’s of course Kant, and I don’t know whether she knew it was Kant. But either way, she knows it from study or she knows it intuitively.
Col
I think that sums it up rather well. From your point of view, Great Debates is your personal playground. You go there to impress the girls (and the girlie boys), to ruffle some feathers, and to expose everyone to a charm and wit that you have deemed will benefit us all. It’s a place for you to flash.
You also enjoy showing off your extensive, though myopic, knowledge of anything and everything to do with brown people although you yourself are not brown. You’re quite like the AS-400 computer operator who has been at his job for thirty years and believes that, somehow, his comments on a programmers’ discussion board about the dead language COBOL will enlighten the young C# guys.
Because you know so much about so little, you find it necessary to saturate your posts with acid, and you have found, to your delight, that some people actually value your wit. You use the ascerbic tone to mask the shallowness of the content. That’s why you defend your position with insults and ad hominems about people’s “winging”. It’s the hallmark of a poor debator that he finds that the argument is about him and his opponent rather than about the issue.
You seek to establish your authority by bullying. You fear that your argument is so weak that you must impress others with your knowledge of the Arabic language or Middle East geography, as though the synthetic knowledge of these means you have an analytic knowledge of how Middle Eastern people think.
Not everything you say is bullshit, but often there is so little real content in your posts that overall they end up looking like flaming rather than debating — a whole lot of filler and only a little meat. You know, if you spray a really stinky toilet with a cedar fragrance air freshener, it just ends up smelling like a shitty Christmas tree.