I rate myself a ‘1’ but my favorite people in real life have never been hot. My three best friends are not airbrushed but their strengths are empathy, integrity and storytelling abilities. One’s a traffic sergeant, another a psychologist and the other helps make vaccines. They’re the types of persons that even strangers can approach if they have good intentions.
I developed big breasts at a young age. Shit, I didn’t even need a face.
I’ve been called ugly and I’ve been called beautiful. I felt both at different times in my life.
When I was young - a 7 or 8 , although I didn’t know it then. Now - it depends. Compared to other women my age, probably an 8. Overall, a 5 or 6.
Why not both?
I am good looking.
I’m 6 feet tall, with blue eyes, a full head of salt and pepper hair (which began to go silver in high school), dimples, and I work out and eat healthy.
In gym culture, I’m what they’d call a guy with “good genes”, in that I put on muscle fairly well. I’m not exceptionally huge, but at about 212 pounds I have a flat stomach, broad shoulders, and muscular arms and legs.
That’s not to say that I’m perfect. Physically, my pec development sucks (although it’s improving!) I have a scar on my nose from when a dog bit me. The part in my hair is starting to get noticeably higher on my head. Years of smoking stuff have surely done me no favors (I have jowl lines.). I’d get veneers for my teeth if I could afford them, and I have a strong (and slightly crooked) jaw - think broadcasters Brian Williams or Lester Holt - which can make some pictures of me come out really goofy.
On the other hand, my picture does feature prominently on my law firm’s website (and I’m just an associate). They got a good angle.
My real problem is that I’m very anti-social, to the point that I’ve started to wonder if I’m on the autism spectrum. I can list a legion of women in my life who made it known that they were interested in dating me, and who I thought were beautiful, but I’ve rarely dated, and I’ve never been in what I would consider a healthy relationship.
Just in the last year I squandered 2 opportunities to date really attractive women because of my social ineptitude.
(Which is ironic, perhaps, because I know how to interact with people in my job ; it’s a role I call professionally charming, and I’m good at it. I’ve had a handful of clients make overtures to me, including two married women who both sent me racy photos).
One thing is I have almost comically attractive hair (again, apparently based on comments I receive). I don’t really do much with it beside get a decent haircut every few months. I’m just sort of naturally hair-twins with Bradley Cooper.
I was getting stopped by women in Manhattan bars commenting how nice my hair was.
Some woman asked me if I would hair-model at the salon where she worked.
My friends and co-workers were giving me nicknames like “McDreamy”, “Justin Trudeau”, and “Snuffaluffagus”.
Last year, one of my clients meeting me on Zoom for the first time was even like “Wow! You really do have nice hair!” (apparently after seeing my head shot in a proposal we sent).
Is this for real?
I don’t spend hours making detailed sketches of myself nude, but, yeah, I’m a good looking dude. Tall, got a lot of hair, not much grey, brush my teeth, and shave and shower when I feel like it. And dress appropriately. Talk good when called for. Can do some things. When I feel like it. Good manners. When I want to. All that.
But, honestly, what guy with any self respect is going to say anything except ten out of ten? Out of ten! Out of a thousand! Arm-wrestle! Fine, two out of three! You know what I mean.
Of course I’m familiar with cis-hetero women and there’s a different standard of self-evaluation there…but I don’t put women on some “scale”…more personality and self esteem, really. Perhaps has to do with my middle aged self at this point. Not that I don’t turn my head now and again, but that’s uncommon.
So, apparently, most of the guys who have replied in this thread have no self-respect.
Well, after having read the entire thread.
Points for honesty on behalf of the menfolk.
But, still!
No, I wouldn’t claim a “ten” — my nose has been broken three times starting in youth. Still tall, all that…could stand to lose a few pounds, probably like many middle aged people.
But self confidence is the key, you know! It’s the freshmaker!
I say TEN (out of…mumble mumble something).
If I look, critically at people(which I don’t do much), a man needs to be interesting looking. Not just the model perfect look.
Clean is more important, decent shoes or boots.
I know men don’t look at women the same. The average woman cannot compete with how other women are portrayed in photos and film.
My favorite actress is Kelly Reilly. She’s Beth on Yellowstone.
She had a beat up face, with scars for like 2 seasons. And still manages to be an interesting character and quite sexy.
Every man hates her looks. That I’ve asked. It may be her tough character, to a degree. A tough woman with classic model looks would be easier to take.
I think.
I have been thinking about it some more. I’m sure my problems with women were not based on my looks.
As I have posted about rather extensively in the past twenty five years, I have a variety of mental health issues. Besides being awkward in many social situations, I find most unwritten rules not worth following. Additionally, I am (or at least was) hypersexual. My libido is signiificantly higher than average. I cannot find the thread, but some of us Dopers with mental health diagnoses were discussing things that most people don’t know about those conditions. A few of us said we were hypersexual. One poster (I don’t remember who) described it perfectly. They used the words “painfully horny”. Managing a higher than average libido while having all the other problems I mentioned was quite a chore and made talking to women and dating them even more difficult.
I also remembered the party (it was not a loud party filled with throbbing music, dancing and large amounts of alcohol) where I met my beloved. While it was a quiet party centered around games like Apples To Apples, there was alcohol. I take lithium carbonate. It makes me extremely thirsty. I was looking for a non alcoholic beverage. A woman walked in with a plastic punch bowl, ladle and assorted ingredients for non alcoholic punch. I didn’t want to be rude and rush her. But, I was very thirsty. So, I kept watching her make the punch to see when I could have a drink. She is a very beautiful woman. She is accustomed to men looking at her. She assumed that I was looking at her and not the punch. She evaluated me as a romantic prospect and decided to signal that she would like to know me better. I completely missed a night’s worth of signals. At one point, she saved a seat for me and invited me to sit next to her. I had no clue. Finally, when I and my ride were leaving at the end of the party, she stopped me and began asking me questions. I forget most of them. I do remember that she asked if I owned a leather jacket (I did not). I was very confused and could not tell if she was mocking me for fun or if she was signalling that I should ask for her phone number. She finally clarified things by asking for my number. I am so very very glad she did.
Uhhhhhhhhh. Cast a wider net
Once upon a time I looked very much like Jason Patrick in The Lost Boys. Some 30 years later, not so much.
More like current era Lebowski.
Not in the least. She’s about my age and while I’ve not seen the program, I did a quick Bing search.
Yeah, I mean, get out! She’s a looker, for sure! IRL she might be terrible as a human but I’d give her a look walking down the street, you know.
I agree. Those men must have very high standards!
Indeed. Those men are completely insane if they hate Kelly Reilly’s looks. She is an easy 10/10.
I’m a bit prejudiced because if I had a “type” that would be my type. Maybe it’s because she’s bruised, scarred and beat up throughout much of the show.
When I was younger I was in a touring (regionally) band. We had a publicity photo of course. In that photo I think I may have been considered an ‘8’.
Now? Maybe a 6, maybe 5.
I was thinking of posting that pic but I see no one else is putting up so… meh.
Due to the aforementioned chronically low self esteem, I rarely let anybody take photographs of me. Doing some quick searching, I found a photograph of me from Halloween 2023. Please Note- I had just moved. All my costume supplies had either been thrown out or were boxed up. The move was expensive and I had very little money to use on a new costume. I didn’t have much time either.