How much sympathy does a person deserve who keeps going back to a bad relationship?

I do have sympathy for people who haven’t realised that what they’re dealing with is abuse, and that’s because I’ve been there. Hitting you is so clear-cut, so obviously abusive that there should never be a question about it - it’s the emotional abusers that are sneaky, and that’s what I dealt with. It’s hard to see that you’re being manipulated into isolation when he’s just always so concerned for your welfare. He never forbids you to go anywhere! No, of course not. He just worries about you when you’re out, and calls frequently to check you’re ok because he’s so worried and wants to know you’re ok! Oh, and because he misses you, and isn’t that so sweet. So maybe it would just be better to stay home today rather than go out and worry the guy when he already has so much on his plate…

And when he comes home and he’s had a bad day at work, you don’t enjoy the conversations but he’s not yelling at you, he’s just yelling because he had a bad day and he’s venting, and you’re there to listen to him and let him get it out, and it would be silly to think he’s yelling at you, he’s not even mad with you! He’s mad with those jerks at work and they’ve got him so worked up that he can’t even talk about it without raising his voice. So he’s just yelling to you, in front of you, because he needs to get it off his chest and he can talk to you about anything because that’s how close you are. So you don’t enjoy it and you don’t look forward to it, but whenever he’s upset about something you can sit there while he yells and gets it off his chest and try to help him feel better about it. And then he’s coming home every day in a bad mood, and instead of thinking that you’re sick of him coming home in these moods you grow more worried because it’s not like him, and clearly he’s under a lot of strain if he needs to yell so much, so often, just to get through his day.

And then suddenly you’re sitting alone at home all day, every day, waiting for him to walk through the door and yell at you for half an hour about the jerks and morons he works with, but you don’t think of that as abuse. You’re just a caring wife who stays home rather than stress her already-stressed husband further, and he’s just a guy who’s under too much pressure at work.

And then one day you’re out of it and you look back at it and you see it for what it was and yet you still can’t even pinpoint when “I miss you when we’re apart.” and “Man, I work with some jerks! Let me tell you about my day.” became emotional abuse.

In my favorite example…none.

I just offered to let an ex-gf stay at my place for a while after being physically abused by her hubby for the (1…2…3…4…aww fuckit lost count, time). She declined on the grounds that he would leave her and she would lose her medical insurance.

She didn’t think it was funny when I pointed out she would be much less likely to need it staying with me. No she does not have any chronic medical problems (well psych problems I guess).

From my experience, be it women or men that go around telling their situation to everyone at work, are just whoring for pity-parties.
I completely agree with the ‘no good role models’ to base a good relationship on; unfortunately i see a trend that the more relationship crap you have going on, the longer the center stage light will shine on you.

Sympathy / compassion depending on the situation from me. I will genuinely try to help, but i can’t be your savior - it’s you that has to become one.
It’s lying down, unbound on the train tracks, with the train almost upon you. The rope only exists in your mind, only you can cut free.

Complaining about one’s SO/spouse is, sadly, a socially acceptable activity for females. People who do this as a social activity don’t intend to leave their partners generally, just consider it some sort of outlet that won’t end the relationship. I think that’s why others may get so frustrated about this - they think the person is actually asking for advice, when they’re just engaging in what is for better or worse, a socially sanctioned type of conversation.

When Keanu Reeves has a really bad day, sometimes he slips back into one of his old characters and has a Socratic dialogue with himself.