How should Clinton press the debate advantage?

She is getting some attention now, finally … maybe she can talk a bit more about her positive vision for America’s future, her priorities, and her plans.

I am voting for her and have always seen a lot to vote for. Last night helped cement why Trump is someone to vote against. But some others need to get a better idea of why to vote FOR HER.

Will she play that hand? Or should she keep the pressure on why not Trump?

If she can cement her support among blacks, latinos, women, educated people disgusted by racism and sexism, etc then that will be a good use. How she can do that? I don’t know.

Trump for the last month has been trying to stay on message, only speaking from prepared notes and pretending to care about the well being of minorities and women. Supposedly this isn’t to get support from them, it is to get support from low information voters who don’t want to vote for a racist bully. So if Hillary can use debate highlights to show Trump’s true personality to low information voters, have at it.

She should absolutely concentrate on selling her vision, while her surrogates continue to attack Trump. Clinton herself shouldn’t mention Trump until the next debate, then continue to bait him like she did.

How did she bait him? I know Trump has narcissistic tendencies, so statements like how he got a loan from his father, or how he isn’t as rich as he says he is are bait that he took. Someone like Trump can’t let Hillary claim he only succeeded because of his dad or that he isn’t rich w/o losing it.

What else did she do? I didn’t pay enough attention to catch all the pieces of bait she left for him that he gobbled up in a desperate attempt to defend his ego.

Summary here:

IMO Clinton should bring up the gold star family and see if she can bait Trump into attacking them again during one of the debates, maybe she’s saving that for the Third debate.

Another ad campaign, focusing on the 40+ lies Trump told during the debate, putting his rambling nonsensical replies on a loop, would be great fun.

Target the voting groups (as is now already being done) with specific instances of him making a complete asshole of himself, a series of 30 second spots.

I don’t think she needs to do anything special at this point except prepare even harder for the next debate, because Trump is going to throw everything he possibly can from the opening bell. I suspect Trump will be down significantly in the polls and like a fighter who knows he’s down on the scorecards in the final round is going to try to land some hay makers. Fortunately for Hillary, I think Donald is running out of time. It’ll be at least until the weekend and early next week before Donald has a chance to recover and talk about something else. Angry, cocky, bullying Donald has now been reduced to weak, dumb, unprepared Cheetoh boy.

The debates have the added benefit of having also opened up new angles of attack for Hillary, too. People are talking about Donald’s health – even possible coke use (lol) (I mean who better to give Trump a taste of his own medicine than a licensed doctor from Vermont, right? :smiley: ). Now people are talking about Donald’s taxes, his business practices, Miss Piggy, Rosie O’Donnell…he’s given Hillary a buffet to choose from here.

Hillary’s ad buys will now hopefully be put to good use. Use clips from the debate so that people keep talking about it. I also think she ought to keep rubbing it in a little. Get Liz Warren to troll him on twitter.

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Trump said some downright crazy things in that debate, surely Clinton has to take advantage of that and draw further attention to that craziness to push home the point that Trump himself is unfit to be a president?

I understand that she needs to show her own good points, but at least in this post-debate time frame not using Trumps words against him would be a waste in my opinion, he gave her so much to use!

Her Machago gambit was set in motion well before the debate, apparently, with a Cosmo story that came out yesterday. At this point expect Trump to spend several more days insulting women’s weight and defending his actions of not paying a woman for her work, while Clinton sits back and grins.

Ding ding ding.

Let her stay above it all. She sells a positive vision and let her surrogates - Biden, Obama, Warren, Kaine et al. keep poking at Trump to provoke him. See if he blows his top.

Hell, the last thing Kaine should do in the VP Debate is engage Pence. Make every statement about Trump if he can. “Really? You want to work for this guy?”

Trump needs a coalition of people who want a racist, sexist president and people who are trying really hard to ignore those things because they like his message on isolationism, his “say what I think” attitude, and his relationship (or lack thereof) with wealthy donors.

So he has been saying horribly racist, sexist things on Mondays and then taking them back on Thursdays as a mistake or misinterpretation. but the racists know what he really means and the wishful thinkers take him at his word because the alternative is to elect Hillary who they think is corrupt.

She needs to keep pounding on Trump for his racism and sexism and force a wedge between his supporters.

Why do that? Pence’s reactionary record should provide more then enough ammo-painting Pence as another Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin further undermines Trump’s campaign.

I would focus on the attacks that would resonate the most with Trump supporters-namely Trump defrauding his contracters who often were precisely the sort of white working class types who now form the core of the Donald’s support base. Considering Trump’s massive advantage of the white noncollege vote, chipping away at it-ideally by making this essentially a national scandal-can chip away at his margins like Pennsylvania, Ohio, and New Hampshire. Running on some of the economically populist issues that Obama ran on in 2012 (and which in turn gave him a respectable share of the WWC vote) such as accusing Trump himself of outsourcing jobs, as well the Donald’s reactionary tax plan to essentially morph Trump into nothing more then a Romney 2.0 will also be very helpful. Meanwhile she should zero in on issues of concern for Millennials which is the one component of the Obama coalition she is underperforming with. Education obviously will be one issue here but she should also frame her advocacy for paid sick and maternity leave towards Millennials who are more likely then their elders to be in underpaid, substandard jobs. She should also seriously consider forwarding a bold proposal on say marijuana legalization or copyright law reform which I think can solidify her position in an election year like 2016 where anti-Establishment outsiders have proven so successful. If Clinton can combine her perception of experience with a bold willingness to shake up the status quo, that will be make her unbeatable.

Here’s a good start on one of the many lines of follow-up:

She should squeeze all the blood out of this one. Trump voters don’t like people taking advantage of they system and not paying their fair share. Paint Trump as a freeloader. You paid his taxes for him.

She must not feel sorry for the guy; so much is at stake and he’s not out of it yet.
And she’s looking worryingly over-confident post-debate.

Firstly she sort of let the idea that the economy is not doing well go unchallenged. I think at least one stat needs to be thrown back at that.
Once or twice she tried to talk over trump, briefly falling to his level. I don’t think she did that too much, but she needs to watch that going forwards. If they both look like clowns she’ll lose support to third parties, or turnout.

Finally, I think the interviewer did focus somewhat on Trump, so expect attention to focus to her next time. She just needs to deal with the bengazi and email bullshit as well as she has in the past and not channel Trump and get too defensive :slight_smile:

She should suggest they schedule four more debates.

Mentioning his father’s loan was one good way to do it. (But was the loan $1 million, or $14 million?) Trump didn’t go off the rails right away, but gave a bad answer. (It was only a small loan. What is small compared to $14 million, especially that long ago? Why didn’t he just give the answer, or even any number?)

Mitt Romney “won” the first question against Barack Obama in the first 2012 debate, catching the normally unflappable Obama off guard.

Trump complained earlier that the debates were scheduled at the same time as football games. Seems like he shouldn’t have complained.

One of the financial publications, maybe the Wall Street Journal converted Donnie’s daddy loan to current dollars at $14 million. That’s where that came from.

Indeed, he’s been distracted repeatedly by this story. And the beauty of it is, his targets keep responding and baiting him into yet more grenade throwing. Donald Trump doesn’t really seem to get it: probably 65 percent of the + million watching the debate thought he was an utter douchebag. Bringing up Miss Piggy and Rosie O’Donnell, or responding to it, is going to keep the douchebaggery narrative going unless he can find something else to talk about. I could see this going on for a week or more.