Unless you can get him to support Sanders and point out he’s the real redpill candidate who can unkoch this Republic, it is better that he supports Trump then some joke candidate like Jeb or Kasich.
Never miss a chance to connect them!
If he is so bad, why has been Sherriff for so long? Maybe his constituencies know more about their County than you do.
I live here, and I know; indeed, full of voters that do hate and do like to have their nose cut to spite themselves just to have a racist that does put some of “those people” in their place.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20140127maricopa-county-arpaio-costs-tallied.html
It seems that his latest stunt of attempting to investigate the very same judge that he has in his case of contempt of court so as to get a mistrial is finally convincing the people of Arizona to dump him.
BTW Trump was an idiot* for ignoring that item too, and for not following the advise of both Republican senators that advised him to not go to Arpaio’s rally.
- Or also a racist bully, pick your poison.
You might also read through the Trump threads in the Election Forum. Chock full of interesting tidbits, as well as useful links.
Just the other day I heard a woman (who I thought was a Hillary supporter) starting to talk Trump.
Let’s face it – people are sick of all the foreigners invading the Country…
The main thing to do would be to show he can’t do what he says he will do–the stuff that actually attracts people to him. You say she’s not a bigot, so point out the bigoted things he is advocating. If she cares about taxes, show that his tax plan will double the national debt in a rather short time.
If she’s the type who thinks being an asshole means being a strong leader, I’m not sure there’s much you can do. If she’s a Christian, you can point out how Trump is the most blatantly anti-Christian candidate who has ever run. I guess you could also point out that he has the mindset of a bully, which may appeal if she’s a bully herself. You can point out that he lies for a living, that he’s smart enough to know that his tax plan is fake. He tells people what they want to hear.
That’s really all I can think of, and it hasn’t been enough to stop a lot of people.
It is bound to get worse if Trump becomes president. As a climate change denier too Trump is not going to lift a finger regarding that issue and one of the most likely results of that in the near future we will be confronted with even more refugees thanks to the changes in climate.
I have also seen Trump supporters in this board point out that Trump is not going to do all that he is promising. That it is just his “negotiating skills” to get what he really wants. (IOW that he does want is “the middle” that includes also immigration reform while deporting not as many as he promised and not wondering much about a fence as reality will not allow him to do it). It is done AFAIK to convince many on the fence that do know how dumb Trump ideas are that it is “safe” to vote for him, but that does mean then that refugees will continue to come to America still.
Oh, and I was forgetting the issue of his anti-vaccine position.
As pointed in another thread, it is important to remind any Trump supporters that a Trump presidency will be very harmful to organizations that have to answer to the executive, like the Centers of Disease Control. Trump should never be allowed to control such a powerful bully pulpitwhen vaccines are so important for the well being of our nation.
Wait until she starts gushing (like the woman I heard quoted in a news story) about how Trump tells it like it is without worrying about hurting his targets’ feelings, and then inform her that she’s a worthless, ignorant bitch.
I doubt she’ll make the connection but at least she won’t share her newfound political enthusiasms with you anymore.
No, people like YOU may be sick of all the foreigners “invading” the country but there are a lot of xenophobic bigoted loudmouths who make out like is the case.
While this might pass some sort of “technical” test of following the rules, based on your throwing ellipses into the quote box, your quotation of GIGObuster does serious harm to what he actually posted.
Do not do this again.
[ /Moderating ]

I can’t believe it, but you yanks found a NY equivalent to Silvio Berlusconi.
“Found” him? Sadly, he’s been impossible to miss for decades.

What I don’t like about Trump is that he seems to be all bluster, just saying things that get an emotional response out of people, without any real plans or initiatives.
In other words, he’s not what Margaret Thatcher, describing herself, called a “conviction politician” and what I would call a politician with a high need for achievement. Instead, I think he is mostly interested in power for its own sake, defining power as in my last link. If that’s what you are saying, I agree.
As for the positions on the Trump for Presideint web site, checking tonight, I only see five entries under “positions.” That’s not much. And I think they are mostly (not all) positions he, and his staff, developed in reaction to recent headlines (“VETERANS ADMINISTRATION [sic] REFORMS”) or were written up as an appeal to GOP primary voters and are unlikely to reflect Trump’s real views, if any (“SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS”).
So, coming in here, I think you already had Trump correctly pegged.
As far as your friend, does she enjoy having her views challenged? If yes, proceed accordingly. If not, I don’t think you have an obligation to set her straight.
Personally, if it becomes convenient, I would be interested in attending a Trump campaign event. But I’m sure I couldn’t change anyone’s mind there.

While this might pass some sort of “technical” test of following the rules, based on your throwing ellipses into the quote box, your quotation of GIGObuster does serious harm to what he actually posted.
Do not do this again.
[ /Moderating ]
Sorry, didn’t intend to link the two fragments together into a single sentence; was going to make a separate comment about the second, but decided not to and forgot to edit the quote. I don’t think anyone could do serious harm to anything GIGObuster posts.
Donald Trump is still a birther, a mediocre businessman, a stingy son-of-a-bitch that has filed four bankruptcies with his companies.

Nice.
That BTW was a nice reminder of Trump’s birtherism and of how Trump is indeed a bully:
Maher made a joke about Trump being an Orangutan and Trump demanded the 5 million dollars that Maher mentioned in the joke, it mentioned the 5 million being awarded to Trump “if Trump demonstrated that he was not an orangutan”
Maher: "Now they (Trump and lawyers) seem to be trying to set a bold new precedent:
That jokes on late-night talk shows are now legally binding agreements between the comedian and the person they’re making fun up.
Yes, I’m sure this to go all the way to the Supreme Court. [sarcasm]
You know, I tell you something: the legal system in this country is not a joke, it is not a toy for rich idiots to play with."
(Applause)
Oh, yeah, one should mention here that Trump would be able to do more abuses like that with an Attorney General that will do his bidding.

How much money did you donate to the Donald Trump Foundation?
Are you also stingy?
(That link excoriates Trump for not donating to The Donald Trump Foundation; unless I missed it, there is nothing about his overall charitable contributions there).
The article compares Trump to other billionaires, not “stingy” guys like razncain,
And it does mention what Trump did contribute, it is just that in comparison to other philanthropists Trump has not much there to claim that he is an “ardent philanthropist”. I guess then Bloomberg, Bill Gates, George Soros, and the Koch brothers are ‘galaxies worth of stars’ philanthropists.
IRS records show that, over the past five years, Trump–who describes himself as an “ardent philanthropist”–has donated just $675,000 to his foundation. As TSG has previously reported, this level of philanthropy is dwarfed by Trump’s billionaire peers like Michael Bloomberg, Bill Gates, George Soros, and the Koch brothers.
When compared to Bloomberg–another New York City billionaire with a household name–Trump’s stinginess is staggering. In 2010, Bloomberg (pictured below) donated more than $350 million to his foundation, which during the year made donations totaling about $105 million. At year’s end, the Bloomberg foundation had assets of $2.734 billion. Trump’s foundation had $2.255 million (largely thanks to Vince McMahon).

My friend is not a racist or a misogynist, that’s what makes this so vexing. I think she just doesn’t see it in Trump, maybe because of being naive.
Perhaps your friend, unlike the majority of posters on this board, can differentiate between real misogyny and racism and that which exists merely as oppositional politics.
Opposition to illegal immigration is not the same as racism. Nor is it xenophobia. I know Hispanics who are in the country legally and they resent both the immigrants and the idea of amnesty.
But of course to the left one must not only tolerate but welcome and defend any and all wrongful behavior if it comes from a politically protected group. Failure to do so immediately identifies one as a bigot and some flavor of ‘phobe’.
And perhaps your friend recognizes that contrary to false portrayals coming from the left, Trump isn’t a misogynist either. He directed a few ugly insults Rosie O’Donnell’s way after she attacked him on national television, and he’s occasionally directed insults toward a few other women. What doesn’t get brought up is that he’s directed insults at tons of men too. If you want to dislike him because he says rude and insulting things, you’d have every right to do so. But to paint him as sexist because of a few insults aimed at women when he’s insulted men vastly more often is not only unfair but factually wrong.
On the other hand, and in a real world sense, Trump has not only not been sexist, he’s been great for and with women. He has hired and elevated many smart and talented women to powerful executive positions within his organization and has done so for decades. He’s shown not a shred of chauvinism toward any of them, nor have there ever been accusations of sexual impropriety either. His record of dealing with women in real world terms is exemplary.

Even if someone might want the country run like it were a business (a dubious proposition, but we’ll grant it for the sake of argument), do we really want the country run like Trump…?
Works for me. Twice he’s built multi-billion dollar empires from virtually nothing. And his four business (not personal) bankruptcies pale in comparison with the hundreds of projects he’s started and run successfully and profitably.
A large part of a president’s job is making financial decisions and who better to so that than someone with a broad and deep understanding of how money works, and who has connections to some of the best financial minds in the country? It’s true that countries should not and cannot be run like companies, but certain aspects of it can, and Trump is better suited by far than any of the other candidates to manage that aspect of a president’s job. Some have admitted to Trump they don’t even know what ‘corporate inversion’ means and yet they’ll be having to deal with an economy where it’s tax implications are a significant factor.

No, people like YOU may be sick of all the foreigners “invading” the country…
Of course they’re invading the country! If someone climbed over a wall outside your house and snuck inside wouldn’t you feel your home had been invaded?
Cripes!! :rolleyes:

And it does mention what Trump did contribute, it is just that in comparison to other philanthropists Trump has not much there to claim that he is an “ardent philanthropist”. I guess then Bloomberg, Bill Gates, George Soros, and the Koch brothers are ‘galaxies worth of stars’ philanthropists.
Trump’s real net worth is estimated to be in the neighborhood of $2.9 to $4 billion dollars. Most of the billionaires Trump’s being compared to have many tens of billions more than Trump, with Soros the piker at only $23 billion and the Koch brothers and Gates coming in at $43 billion each and Gates at $79 billion.
Hardly a fair comparison then, is it?