Do your kids have access to your guns? In my city two nights ago there was an incident at a bar. One man bumped another (according to the police report). When he left the second man followed him into the parking lot with two of his friends who all kicked and stomped him into unconsciousness. How might that have gone down if all of them or some of the bystanders were armed?
Y’know, people in schools could offer up silent prayers to any deity they choose any time they want without anyone knowing. Or do prayers somehow “work better” if spoken aloud from a group?
An alternate version of the Bryan Fischer theory which I’ve been hearing quite a lot is “this happened because they took God out of the schools”. Presumably this is in reference to the decision of 40-odd years ago that disallowed teacher-led prayers in the classroom.
This line of thinking, of course, presumes the children and teachers who died were somehow being punished for an act that none had had a hand in…an utterly sick and twisted interpretation of the tragedy that represents an appalling new low, even for the fundies.
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Along with that, if they really believe in an omnipresent God, then it cannot be “taken out” of schools any more than it can be “put in” schools since it is everywhere at all times.
I don’t have my own kids, but I have 6 goddaughters ranging from 5 up to 23 [my god how time flies …:eek:] and they do not have free access to the weapons, though when they hit 8 they get a kids version of the NRA class so they can be safe, and under 14 they can target shoot with supervision on the 22 vermin gun and the older ones can borrow something for target shooting on our practice range here. Really the 5 year old is the only kid too young to have had our safety training and she actually isn’t really interested in guns right now, she likes her American Girl doll and helping me in the kitchen. She is the girliest of all 6 sisters, actually.
Their spin: “If only we armed the teacher, this never would’ve happened.” “If only we allowed kids to pray in schools, their prayers would’ve been answered, and they wouldn’t have died.” etc.
How might it have gone down? Well some bystander might have drawn a gun and fired then he and his friends draw their guns and fire back and soon there’s a pitched battle going down.
Not to mention some of the shots might go astray and killed someone walking or driving down the street.
It’s very likely it would not have stopped until at least one person was dead, I imagine.
Though if you read the Old Testament, you’ll find it is full of exactly that. God is forever punishing the children and other descendants of evil* doers. Most of the conquest of the “Promised Lands” by Joshua has God commanding his chosen people to wipe out all the women and children in the towns after killing the men in the battles.
*Evil usually being defined as they don’t worship me.
Me. I used to buy it when Senator Jim Webb went on about Scotch-Irish Americans and their gun culture and votes for Democrats. But now he’s leaving government and is no longer of any relevance, and I’m just sick from the damn violence and want to see something done about it for a change.
Well, I thought this was a tasteless idea for a thread. Must we assume that Teapartiers would spin such a horrible tragedy? I was wrong…
His mention of mental health issues seems balanced–but not whenthe pitiful state of health care in Texas is concerned. (Not the Connecticut gunman suffered because of poverty, either.)
Just how long would one teacher with a handgun & a little gun training last against a well-equipped nutcase?
TEA party is a way of thinking, rather than an actual political party. If it is really a party, give me the names of their last elections Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees.
