Poppycock… that’s a good one, almost as good as one of my other favorites “horse pockey”. Think I’ll steal it. 
Where do you buy wacky juice?
There used to be a consensus between the parties on the basics, and mostly we were just arguing over matters of degree.
Nowadays, the two parties have vastly different world views. How do you compromise between “everyone should have decent health care” and a view that the ACA is giving poor people ‘free stuff’?
Also, there’s the increasing prevalance on the part of one party to buy into (or simply create) evidence-free conspiracy theories. Remember that story about the caravan from several weeks back? How do you compromise with people who say either Soros or the Dems, or both, were financing the caravan, which was filled with criminals and Middle Eastern terrorists? Especially when, just two and a half weeks after the election, they’ve practically forgotten all about it, even though they were scaring themselves shitless with their stories just a few weeks ago?
Trying to think of what a middle ground would even look like, and coming up empty.
It’s been just shy of a decade since John Cole of Balloon Juice put it this way:
It may or may not have been true then. There isn’t any argument anymore.
I selected middle left. I don’t vote 100% Democrat/liberal, tho.
You should stay around here, but remember: people are entitled to their own opinion, but they’re not entitled to their own facts.
I couldn’t agree more.
Labeling one’s opponents “insane” and arguing that only “one party” buys into conspiracy theories doesn’t seem like it leaves much room for bipartisanship or even honest discussion.
Sounds honest to me
Far left by American standards which means moderate left or centrist by everybody else’s.
There isn’t any. The Republicans are morally and factually wrong about essentially everything; as such neither bipartisanship nor honest discussion is possible with them. Attempting bipartisanship with them is both futile and immoral.
Works both ways too. How Bi-Partisan we are !
That’s the Spirit! Dehumanizing half the country will surely make you feel superior as you mock ‘Those Deplorable People’.
If only this were true. I can’t begin to count the times left-leaning Dopers have declared right-leaning Dopers to be downright immoral just for having a differing opinion. Still, that’s no reason to run away just because you may wind up in the minority. An enraged liberal is an amusing liberal!
Well, look what they have done. Look at what they will defend or excuse. Look at what they say. I don’t feel superior, I feel depressed.
Do you think supporting Pelosi is far left though? Pelosi is criticized from the left and ha faced primary challenges from the left.
I wish Soros actually were the person the right says he is. This highly efficient political operative with bottomless pockets for liberal causes.
I’m not seeing a choice that truly fits me. I’m a Democrat for sure and I often refer to myself as a centrist but centrist is where I average out. I have some issues where I am way left and some I am way right.
Maybe “Lean Left” is it.
Because nothing is as funny as somebody afraid of losing their civil rights or their life. :rolleyes:
Of course that’s why you use a phrase as vague as “differing opinion”. It sounds better than “consider most of the world subhuman”.
I suspect that the center needle has shifted in the last few years since the Tea Party came to prominence; what used to be center-right is now the center (or even slightly left), and the old centrists are now center-left.
For example, I used to vote Republican, but that was before they lost their damn minds and became hostile to everything that doesn’t involve guns, religion or trying to prevent the government from spending money on anything but defense and policing.
I mean, who the fuck in their right mind starves the funding for disabled children’s medical care for partisan reasons?
It’s one thing to have philosophical disagreements about how best to help the poor, it’s another to deliberately screw them because “small government is good government”.
So what? This is America, not someplace else.
Res ipsa loquitur.
Oh, yes, there is. Someone with a extreme fear of those things based on the flimsiest evidence. 
(Admittedly, that happens on both ends of the political spectrum.)
:rolleyes:
So… do you have any point to make, or are you just going to continue to whine about fairness and bipartisanship?
Because if all you Republicans have is whining, well, whining ain’t winning, is it?
No, whining isn’t winning. But owning the Presidency has got to count for something, doesn’t it?
In Canada I’m middle right, which places me leaning left in US politics.