My Cheatin’ Ex[sup]TM[/sup] and her dad were both frequently mistaken for Jews, even by Jews. I think it’s safe to say they’d have both been lampshades in short order (not that either of them was or is a neo-Nazi and hence deserving of the irony). ;j
It’s a reference to a second username that you used last year for several posts.
I see your point. And you know what? I probably would have not even bothered in the thread anymore if it had only been Huerta clutching to those stats. After I realized he was too stubborn to reason with I proclaimed that “I give up on you” and tried to extract myself from the thread.
But then I realized his ideas had seeped into the brains of Dopers who I thought were a lot smarter than that, and I was like, oh damn. This ignorance must be fought. Dangerous thinking going on and no one was really doing anything about it. I didn’t want newcomers getting bad ideas about the place.
Really, it wasn’t me and Huerta going back and forth as much as it was those who thought the guy was making sense. Most of the time I ignored Huerta and probably didn’t even read half of the insults and innuendos he made.
So your last sentence makes your first two meaningless.
Complete indifference.
Accusations of racism in the sense that you are using it - a “racist” is someone who is winning an argument with a black person - don’t resonate. Add to that the fact that you simply disregard or deny the contradictions and misrepresentations in which you engage, while simultaneously condemning it in others, and your attempts at ad hominems become ludicrous.
You would have to have credibility before I would take your accusations seriously. You have little, so there I don’t.
Regards,
Shodan
hehehehehehehhehe! What is worse than a nazi sympathizer? Someone who is tacky! woohoo! Yeah, I had no clue about the 88/hitler thingy. I assumed it was the year he graduated. (86 here) When I saw the thread, I thought, oh crap, wtf does huerta mean? the 88 part flummoxed me.
FWIW, I have never been able to use my maiden name in any online game. It is deemed offensive. I had a hard time using it anywhere online without raising a million flags. You think the 88 is offensive? Try having the name Cockburn. (That’s a gift, I normally don’t reveal it, yes, you can giggle, crack jokes and tell your friends)
Care to demonstrate via cites or quotes where I ever used “racist!” as an ad hominem? You look whiny the more you continue to harp on this note without providing any proof of it.
The “worst” I did was suggest that anyone who believes race is a determinant of behavior is being racist. Even when I made an allusion to Huerta’s name back on page 6, I left plenty of room for him to set the record straight (which he failed to do so):
(bolding mine)
Now if calling someone a racist (which again, I did not) is the worse offense one can do in 1) the Pit and 2) when the goddamn shoe fits, then you guys need to grow up. Seriously, your knee-jerk reaction to the word says more about you and your beliefs than anything else. There’s nothing ad hominish about decribing a certain belief or attitude with the appropriate adjective. Your inability to see that hurts your credibility even more than your remarks about me wanting to be raped, Shodan. Which ain’t saying a whole lot, considering how little you had in the first place.
So you think of yourself as a meanie?
My word, but your grasp of rhetoric has completely driven the wind from my sails. :rolleyes:
Or to put it another way, “Baphomet on a spacehopper, but p/2 < you < p”. (Measuring in radians as any mathematician would.)
[mode=patient explanation for someone who makes a mockery of her doctorate]Whatever my personal opinion of myself, context persuaded me that I was included in monstro’s blanket criticism.[/mode]
Of course, an apology for the too-broad brush and an assurance that I was being called neither a meanie nor a racist will be quite good enough.
How about you post where monstro said that you were racist so we can see if an apology is warranted, Malacandra.
So…you with the face is a disgusting stupid ignorant hypocritical porch ape who wants to be slaveraped because she refutes Huerta’s complete lack of evidence with plenty of her own, and says that racism really does exist, and not just in guys wearing white sheets.
Huerta88 is a great guy, really logical and sharp, because he says things like “you can admit it, you took women’s studies didn’t you” and has a bizarre obsession with a rape case that, once it extended to pouring over every detail of the alleged victim’s statement and speculating about how big of a whore she must be, seems frankly prurient in a thoroughly disgusting way. In addition, he shows a consistent hostility towards vaguely defined groups of black women, liberals, and other unsavories. His posts seem to display a barely restrained hysteria on those topics, to me, not this cool logic some seem to see.
Both of them got a little upset in that thread; face is nailed to the wall for every little hint of something human, but Huerta’s outrageous comments are excused because he was just under so much strain from dealing with that horrible** face.** :rolleyes:
I feel fucking sick right now. And for this, he gets accoldes. Pats on the back. Way to go, Huerta88, you sure showed her. What the fuck is wrong with you people? monstro, face, I am so sorry. And I commend you for somehow finding the strength to deal with this horrific bullshit with such dignity. **Bricker **and other people telling outright falsehoods (Bricker, all I can say to you is that I hope one day when you look back on this, your shame will lead you to keep from having the wool pulled over your eyes in a similar fashion again) about your behavior doesn’t change the evidence, though sadly, many will never look for themselves.
In post #1012 in the “Lying whore” thread:
Given that I was indeed giving you an impossible time in the thread at that time, I think it’s safe to say that monstro is crying racist on me for doing so. Alternative interpretation? :dubious:
My interpretation is that monstro means people think face cannot be objective and logical on this topic due to her race and gender, not that everyone hates her because they’re racist.
Y’think so? :dubious: Well, a few words from monstro that such is the case, and I’ll buy it for a dollar.
I’ve been thoroughly confused all through that trainwreck as to you with the face’s race and gender, although no longer; and my assessment of the poster’s objectivity and logic has been based on her posts.
Well, no, it says a lot about what you hoped would be my reaction. To dismiss it as an act of desperation, which is what I did (and continue to do) is very far from what you hoped.
Actually, it is a near-perfect example of the ad hominem.
Well, if that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black.
Regards,
Shodan
Would be understood by whom?
As far as i can tell, only by morons. Anyone who seriously suggests that she would welcome being raped in order to prove a debate point is a dribbling idiot. That you lend any credence whatsoever to this ridiculous theory does not speak well of you.
Really, now.
Seems to me that if this was the case, that you were oh so confused about my race and gender, you wouldn’t have said this in response to me distinguishing between occurrence rates and reported rates:
(bolding mind)
Now why would such a notion give me pleasure? What ever in your freakin lovin mind would make you attribute something like that to me, if NOT the fact that I’m a self-identified black woman with the audacity to speak out against flagrant ignorance?
Don’t you just love it when everyone starts backpeddling?
Oh no! No one being mean to ywtf! She was being to us. If we insulted her, it’s because she was being hysterical. SHRILL and HYSTERICAL OMG!!!
If people were assigning twisted ulterior motives to my very logical arguments, and even questioning my expertise, I’d probably get really defensive too. (Actually, Huerta could have easily been lumping me in with the “they” as well.)
If we were talking about law or medicine, and an expert stepped up and squashed whatever ignorance was being peddled, everyone would applaud. The dissenter might put up a little fight, but eventually he would concede. I’m wondering why none of the posters who have disagreed with ywtf have shown themselves to be good sports and said, at the very least, “You’ve given me something to think about.” What’s the harm in showing someone that kind of respect? Surely not everything she (or I, or wring, or John Mace) has said has been utter crap. But a lurker,just reading certain people’s posts, would easily come to that conclusion.
The thread has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
I am utterly certain that anyone who said, or implied, that you with the face would welcome being raped was engaging in drastic and distasteful hyperbole.
Well, it wasn’t just anyone. You should address that comment to your boy:
It was neither mockery of those who are attempting to establish a relationship nor accusations of the nature that are being levied against you actually. I do find attempts to turn Huerta into Hitler numerologically to be a bit over the top, and I can think of a million perfectly valid explanations for someone having an 88 in their user name. I was simply referencing the fact that you have two user accounts, and I asked myself why someone would want two accounts. Not two email accounts, not two e-mail addresses associated with one account, but two SDMB user accounts.
I’m not being coy, and I’m not really that much of a stickler for rules that it bothers me on that level, I simply wonder what the motives are of someone needs an alternate identity. I didn’t immediately put forth the evidence in case you did have a good reason for the second account, and in which case you would have preferred that it remain unassociated with you.