Human Resource People Playing God

I wanted to get some computer training to update my degree, so I went to the local state employment and federally-sponsored job training center. After going through a couple weeks of telling the story of my life to a group of entrants, doing workshops with them and taking computer tests, I was told that I didn’t qualify because I was ruled as a “dependent” who didn’t earn enough money that year although I earned enough money to disqualify me as a dependent on someone else’s federal tax return.

I’ve volunteered there as a math tutor before, and saw that basically anyone in town could get training there, except apparently me. Then my mother goes in for training now, and she just told me that they told her that I did in fact qualify for training but the guy who nixed me isn’t working there anymore. How does some human resources clown get to play god with people’s lives to such a degree? I could be working in a job in my field by now if they didn’t toy around with me then show me the exit. They told her that I would have to take the entrance workshops again to take the training now.

My guess is that the guy that ruled me as disqualified was jealous of my degree and my test scores and could see that all I need is updated computer software skills to land a job that pays higher than his job. I’m not sure I ever met this guy though as it was a female who I had been assigned to who gave me the bad news.

Their employment department isn’t much better. I’ve gotten a single job interview through them after a decade of applying for jobs. When I go in there to discuss a job opening, data has invariably been wiped out of my database, meaning that potential employers don’t have sufficient data to bother initiating contact with me. 90%+ of employers here go through the state agency to hire people, so this really limits my prospects, although I do have a job that I obtained on my own.

I see the problem: are you assuming government run bureaucracy is Fair and Logical?

Geez, where do you live? Cuba?

Why is someone trying to claim you as a dependent on their taxes?

Neither one of those issues would seem to be a responsibility of their HR people. HR usually deals with current employees and potential employees of the organization, not customers or users of their services.

Yeah, I can’t make heads or tails either. You didn’t qualify for training… free training, I assume… because you allegedly didn’t have enough income? And what does “human resources” have to do with a state-funded training program?

I find it dubious that they’d discuss your case with your mother.

I love HR.:rolleyes:

I was at a conf, and two of them were going on about what sort of resume to bring to the interview. One said “If you don’t bring it on the best bond paper, I assume you don’t care and shitcan it…”:dubious: The other said “If the resume is on anything but plain white copier paper, you are being pretentious and I blacklist you…”:eek:

These are the dudes that management lets have complete control of who works for the company. Think about it.

Not really, but they seem intent on fouling me up in particular. I don’t know of anyone else that’s been shown the exit after doing the workshops and tests. I would think it was rather unusual.

Close. The USA.

As stated, I can’t be claimed as a dependent on someone’s tax return because my income is too high and no one was trying to do so. I called them up and discussed this with them. I found it very odd that they would bar me from training on account of not having enough income considering that the people I saw receiving training there while I was tutoring weren’t exactly rich themselves. There were people such as college students, retirees, unemployed teachers and so forth.

I’d consider a state employment agency and its auxiliary training program to be involved with human resources, but that may be just my own definition.

I assumed the free training is there for people like me who don’t have enough income to pay for it, but I suppose I assumed wrong. Then again, I was apparently qualified after all.

Maybe I don’t know the proper term for people in organizations, such as temp agencies and other employment agencies, who’s mission is to develop skills and find employment for the general populace rather than people within their own company.

I’ve had past difficulties getting anywhere with other employment organizations either. When I returned to a temp agency to find out why I wasn’t receiving any calls, the agent said I wasn’t even in their computer database and found my paperwork laying unfiled by itself in the bottom of a file cabinet.

Paper? What century do they live in? 20th?

The mission of a state employment agency is to develop skills and the like. The mission of a temp agency is to make money.

Gotta actually read the whole post. Sure, you send your resume electronically for the hiring. But at the actual, in-person interview, it is considered proper to bring a few paper copies of your resume.

Not really. A temp agency’s mission statement would read something along the lines of matching employers and employees although they have a profit motive being a private corporation. They are geared more toward meeting the needs of employers rather than employees but the objective is similar.

I still don’t understand why being claimable as a dependent would preclude one from receiving government-funded job training in the first place. If anything, you’d expect a maximum income ceiling for free services.

Did the ex-employee make this restriction up out of whole cloth? What state is this?

It didn’t make any sense to me when it happened. I wasn’t worried about qualifying since I figured that my income was low enough. It sounds like he pulled it out of his ass. I’m not sure why he’d be given such leeway to make up his own rule like that. It was his underling, the woman assigned to me, that explained it to me though. As I recall, the guy they referred to is probably the guy who ran the workshops. I have no idea what I did to incur his wrath.

They can state anything they like, but I’ve been an office temp for 16 years - their one and only goal is to make money. Temp agencies are shockingly blind to the fact that if the temps don’t work, they don’t make any money, and still insist on treating their temps like shit.

My response to HR people playing God - silly, they’re not playing. :smiley:

They decided to give me a parting gift, an interview with a local company. I went to the interview and it went very well until the interviewer explained to me that he didn’t have time to train a new hire on their computer software so said hire would need to have the tested ability to use such software. He then proceeded to move me to a computer and take a test to demonstrate my knowledge of the software. I didn’t impress him as having such knowledge, and the software was exactly what I was seeking training for over at the employment center.

Thanks a lot, jerks!

Various Ku Klux Klan chapters adopted mottoes along the lines of “protecting the innocent”. Mission statements are just mealy words that look nice on a plaque.

Why the fuck are we even having a discussion about mission statements? Fuck off.

Well, alright. Good luck with the job hunt.