Humane farming and selective consumerism (vs. factory farming)

I read The Omnivore’s Dilemma by Michael Pollan last year, and was fascinated and disgusted with the food supply chain in the U.S. It seemed so out of control that I promptly reacted to it by putting my head in the sand and pretending I didn’t know (buying my food without regard to where it comes from).

Now I’m reading Eating Animals by Jonathan Safrann Foer. I’m disgusted all over again.

I decided that I should be capable of choosing to buy alternatively sourced animal products (meat, eggs, milk) and am trying to take the extra step to learn how to look for these products – essentially voting with my money.

After some research, I think I should be looking for products labeled as: Animal Welfare Approved, Certified Humane, or the 5 step rating system from Global Animal Partnership.(http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/confinement_farm/facts/meat_dairy_labels.html)

This one seems like… crap. http://www.unitedegg.org/ If they really represent 95% of egg producers, how good can they be?

Then there is the whole question of local farms. A local farm that allows visitors might be a good source of products, even if they don’t have an official certification. The idea here is that if they allow local visitors then they will be self regulating for animal welfare – and I can go see for myself.

Because this type of labeling is still new, there are almost too many different certifications for animal welfare. I’m overwhelmed and at risk of putting my head in the sand again.

Has anyone been through this before and successfully become a selective omnivore? What labels do you look for? Do you still buy some products from the regular food supply chain (factory farms)?

How long do you think it will be before these products are more readily available in main stream grocery stores?

I don’t have answers, just wanted to let you know this is a dilemma for me, too.

Thanks ThelmaLou! From what I understand, public awareness of the issue will move farming in the right direction - but in the mean time I feel like part of the problem and want to try to be part of the solution.

If you’re looking to the grocery store, I think you’re barking up the wrong tree. I have a friend who runs a pastured beef cattle operation, and there’s little advantage in selling to a grocery store at wholesale, when she can sell all she raises direct to consumer for a better price. I get my meat through my CSA (community-supported agriculture, aka “farm share”) which has a list of afiliated small producers you can order from. On prescheduled days, they drop off meat deliveries alongside the farm veggies, making it a very convenient service to use.

My particular farm keeps costs down by never selling meat as fresh (not for delivery anyway). Their entire stock gets vacuum sealed and deep frozen. So they have zero waste. Even frozen then defrosted it’s a thousand times better than store bought meat.

Farmers markets are another option but their prices are usually much higher, for several reasons I think, but partially because our farmers markets here have a somewhat posh/upscale image.

Thanks, I will look into that. I probably have a little bit of a mental barrier in terms of how I shop and wanting it to be easy. (Just put the product on the shelf at Stop and Shop and I’ll buy it!!!) But, what you are descrbing sounds easy too once you’ve done it once or twice.

A reasonable approach is to ditch the entire question of “humane” killing and go vegetarian/vegan. Certainly that results in the least animal suffering, the least food contamination, and the lowest environmental impact, and quite possibly better health.

I realize that’s not exactly what you want to hear, but if animal suffering is a concern to you, it does bypass the problem.

Of course going vegetarian is a great approach - but it’s not for me, at least not right now. I don’t actually have any ethical concerns about eating animals, but do have many concerns with how they are treated on these factory farms. I hope that doesn’t sound hypocritical.

Reducing consumption of meat could be part of the solution for me, along with sourcing from humane suppliers when I can.

Try eatwild.com for local sources for meat, dairy, and veggies. Where do you live? There may be grocery stores around that do offer what you’re looking for. Try local farmers’ markets as well and take the time to actually talk to the farmers to find out about their practices. Just because they lack the official USDA organic certification doesn’t mean that they don’t embrace many of the environmental and ethical practices you’re looking for.

Buy in bulk when you can to reduce the inconvenience of not shopping at “regular” stores. I buy half a beef at a time and store it in my chest freezer

That’s my concern as well - I don’t have a problem eating animals or their products, but I want to know that they didn’t needlessly suffer in an inhumane factory farm before I ate them. On the other hand, we’re not rich people, and I don’t want to go to extreme lengths just to feed us. I have four large grocery stores in walking distance; my nearest farmer’s market is a long car drive away. I wish this was as simple and easy as just making better choices. I think I’m going to switch to organic eggs (I was using free range or nest-laid eggs, but I think organic is better regulated), but that’s one down, many to go.

I will check it out, thanks!

I am in New England. I followed some links from a humane farming site and ended up on the Whole Foods website. I always thought of that as a yuppie store, but there are some in the area so I can at least give it a visit. I’ve heard it is expensive though.

Me too! I know people care enough to make informed decisions if they don’t need to make a special trip or spend hours planning to make it happen. It’s just that in an average day most people have somethign else that is a bigger problem and they have to prioritize.

Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to influence local stores to start carrying these products if they don’t already?

A lot of stores will let you special-order something and call you when it’s delivered. Money talks more eloquently than petitions or pleas – try calling and special-ordering what you want. If they can/will order it for you, they will see actual cash demand and may consider stocking it. If they cannot/will not order it, they will see actual cash money slipping through their fingers and may reconsider.

This will work better if more people order the same stuff. But that’s true of any approach you come up with – petitions work better with more signatures, and so on.

This type if farming simply doesn’t sustain the volume that standard grocery stores buyers require. Trader Joes has some decent beef but it’s prepacked/vac sealed so youre stuck with their portion sizes. I won’t darken the door of a Whole Foods as the politics of the CEO are offensive to me.

You’ve got me curious - what are the politics you find offensive?

Here’s a little blog blurbthat puts it better than I can, why I still shop there though I disagree with his view on the new health care.

I understand his and your point of view, I just don’t agree, and choose not to shop there. I am lucky to have many options. Others don’t. If they choose differently, I can understand that too.

And that the thing. You can’t care about all things equally at once. I care about every American’s access to basic health care, more than I care about the maltreatment of cattle. Even though cow-maltreatment IS an issue that concerns me, I don’t feel I need to support WF to do so, nor do I think they’re particular advocates on the issue. And their prices are definitely not “mainstream”.

I watched Food, Inc. in 2009. I became vegetarian the next day, though I was an ovo/lacto vegetarian and still ate some seafood. I did this for just over two years, as I swilled the information around in my head and read more on the subject and watched some other movies and let the whole thing stew.

At the end of those years, I came to the realization (that I had really known all along) that my being ovo/lacto still supported the factory farming business, and I didn’t want any part of it, even if it was indirectly enough to put it out of my mind. So, what are the choices? There are only two. Go vegan. Well, I’m not convinced that’s the answer in the long run, simply because the world will never become vegan. It’s a nice pipe dream, but it won’t change the face of farming back to what it should be, simply not enough people will be vegan, ever. I support veganism, I would have far fewer friends if I didn’t! And there are lots of other reasons I didn’t choose that route, I just don’t think I need to put them all here since that’s not what this thread is about.

Second choice, find local family farms and buy meat/eggs/dairy from them directly. Cut all factory animal farming from my diet. This includes everything I buy, so no more store-bought cheese, mayonnaise, snacks with whey added, milk chocolate, or anything. I found a hog farmer who runs a co-op with three other farms who all have the same farming philosophy. Pastured animals, raised outside with appropriate shelters, raised from birth to death on the farm, eating whatever those animals were made to be eating, no sub-therapeutic antibiotics, treated well and getting to do stuff that makes them happy until their last day.

Is it sometimes a pain in the butt? Yes. I eat a lot less meat now than I used to. I am able to buy meat once a week. In the winter it’s two trains or two buses away to get to the nearest place she sells from. In the summer, there’s a farmer’s market just a block away where her mom sells from a smaller van and it’s easier then. But I still have to plan ahead. Is it more expensive for me? Yes, but since I eat a lot less, I don’t really spend more than I used to.

The thing with attaining meat this way is that it’s not always available exactly when you want it or even in the quantities you want it. Which is why the farmer using a grocer as a middle man doesn’t work. At least not yet. People want to go to the grocery store for a ribeye and they expect a pile of ribeyes to be there waiting for them to choose from. My farmer gets one cow at a time. When the ribeyes are gone, the ribeyes are gone until she gets another cow, usually in another month or so. Or until the beef farmer has a cow old enough to slaughter. That happens, too. So you have to be okay with what there is available, and I am because I support sustainable farming, and when farming sustainably you don’t kill another animal just to get that one preferred cut of meat. In place of that sort of shopping, I am more open to other cuts of meat, and other animals. I eat more lamb and bison than ever, and have also started buying ground duck and whole duck.

Why I don’t even buy meat from Whole Foods: Don’t be fooled by organic labels. Beef can be USDA Organic labeled, because it wasn’t given antibiotics in feed, and the feed was organic, but that feed may still be corn, and that cow may still be on a feedlot and actually factory farmed. You want pastured animals, and those may not be labeled “organic” because the small, sustainable, family farm doesn’t bother with the extra expense of certification. If beef isn’t 100% pasture-raised and grass-fed, then it was likely sold to a feedlot for the last four months of it’s life, getting fattened and sick on grain, and trucked to a massive slaugherhouse with all the others in the end.

I am lucky that I have two tiny, local, organic stores within walking distance of my home. These places carry eggs from local farmers, and they run $4.50 to $5.50 a dozen. I happily pay that. My meat farmer also often has eggs from her chicken co-op partner and they run $5 a dozen. Sometimes she even has duck eggs, or she has tiny eggs that are from really young hens and those are 2 dozen for $5.

Dairy is the item that has been tricky. It’s the only thing I’ve compromised on. The only store I can get local half and half from reliably is just too much of a pain in the butt to try to get to once a week. Cheese is also a challenge when the farmer’s markets aren’t open. I eat a lot, lot, lot less cheese than I used to! So, with dairy the compromise I’ve made is buying the least commercial products possible, and the only one near acceptable to me is Organic Valley. It’s a nation wide cooperative, made up of thousands of smaller farms. The Organic Valley website allows a zip code search to find out which dairies deliver to the store you buy from. Some of those farms have websites, all of them have contact information so if you were so inclined to contact them about their farming practices, you could. I haven’t gone that far.

The final point I wanted make regards eating out. Save for three nearby restaurants that are farm-to-table, and that use local family farms that they list on their menus or that I can ask about where their meat comes from, I eat vegan when I eat out. I haven’t eaten fast food in years, and yes, sometimes if I’m stuck eating at a restaurant I normally wouldn’t choose, I find myself ordering sides sometimes to make a meal for myself. Baked potato and veggies, sometimes with olive oil if the only alternative is butter, or just marinara sauce over pasta. Eh. It doesn’t happen very often, and there’s usually something I can make due.

So let me know if this has spurred any questions, I’ve been eating this way since about October of 2011. I can go into even more detail about my farmer and her co-op and how they do things, if you want me to.

My hat’s off to you, SeaDragon. Bravo. :slight_smile:

SeaDragonTattoo: Yes, name your sources! It seems my neighborhood farmers market isn’t carrying milk anymore. :frowning:

Organic Valley milk is easier to find than some other local stuff. I get half and half from Newleaf (Loyola and Lakewood), and they carry a couple other milks plus cream cheese, a raw cheddar and one other cheese in 6-8 ounce blocks, butter, and sour cream from Organic Valley. It’s much cheaper at Whole Foods though, and all the WF carry the whole Organic Valley line. I have found OV at a Dominick’s or Jewel here and there, but usually just half gallons of milk and that’s it. The Jewel I shop at had the half and half last time I looked, but pricing was in line with Newleaf and I choose to support the little guy if price is the same. Well, sometimes even if it’s not the same, but I give my wallet a break sometimes!

I’ve seen some local dairy at Urban Orchard (Clark and Foster), the half and half was non-homogenized, though, and it’s hard to use in coffee - which is the only reason I buy it. Sorry I don’t buy regular milk, so I don’t know what the selection is at any of these places as far as whole vs skimmed. I did find some delicious egg nog at Urban Orchard last December, though I found the SO coconut milk stuff to be darned good, and cheap at Dominick’s.

Then there’s True Nature (Broadway and Norwood/Glenlake), I haven’t been there in a while, but they’re right across from a Dominick’s and they have a meat co-op, they carry eggs and dairy too, but I don’t remember from where.

Anyway, hope that helps, though it might not at all if you’re nowhere near the neighborhood! These stores are pretty neat, from green rooftop to beekeeping to reusing and recycling and sponsoring farmer’s markets in their neighborhoods. I feel pretty lucky to be walking distance to two of them and not that far from the third (urban orchard), where I’ll stop in if I’m doing something else in Andersonville. Oh, and Urban Orchard carries ice cream from Ruth and Phil’s, which is the only dairy ice cream I eat, too. If it’s not that, it’s sorbet for me. I’m far too lazy to make my own.