Just in case, to throw it back, Brazilians (and Portugal, then?) do it backwards. The father’s last name is the last one in the line, but it is that last name the one traditionally used if all the other last names are dropped out. That’s traditionally. Oh, and women (traditionally) take the husband’s last name.
I say traditionally because I know some (including my SO) who don’t fit that mold.
Yes, there is. The tradition in the US is that the kids take the father’s surname. Sure there are exceptions and hyphenation with the mother’s surname is becoming acceptable, but the tradition is to take the father’s surname only.
And that is their legal name on all official documents. For social purposes, business cards, classroom rosters, etc. majority of people drop their second last name and go by their father’s last name.
Alberto Miguel Gonzales Hernandez, would be more well known as Alberto Gonzales. And when Alberto marries Maria Consuela Saba Jimenez and they have a son named Alberto Miguel after his father, the child’s name will be Alberto Miguel Gonzales Saba. The paternal names are the ones passed down, not the maternal names.
I’m curious, why are you giving in on this? The kid’s already got a name. Why should he change it just because his parent’s are divorcing? I am assuming it’s not his fault you two can’t get along. What next change his first name, when you move to different state, to be more in line with the local culture? Your wife’s got some foolish notions.
ETA: Apparently it was okay for him to have your name only when he was born. Did she change her name when you two got married? Or did she always keep her maiden name?
Do not do it. DO NOT DO IT. Don’t saddle your kids with this. It is not necessary.
Giving kids a hyphenated name is totally about the parents’ own ego and thinking that they’re clever and unique and whatever. It does not benefit the child AT ALL. The parents don’t understand what a pain in the ass it is. They get to keep their single last names! It’s the KID that has to grow up with the fucking confusing, convoluted hyphenated name.
Everyone will constantly be confused by it; when giving the name to people over the phone, over the counter, pharmacists, the BMV, banks, whatever. And expect at least half of the people that the hyphenated-named-person will come into contact with in his lifetime to think that his last name is one or the other of the hyphenated names but NOT both of them.
Will you please just trust me on this - as someone who has had to go through life with a “double-barreled” surname?
DO NOT BURDEN YOUR KIDS WITH A FUCKING HYPHENATED NAME. JUST DON’T.
My kids disagree. Both teens, they have always liked the hyphen. They also know they can drop either name anytime they choose and make it legal after 18. So far, they prefer to keep it.
There’s no such tradition as the Spanish/Brazilian one for how to handle multiple or hyphenated last names in the US. As you say, it’s an exception to the last name tradition, but has not (yet?) evolved traditions of its own, like which parent’s name comes first.
Argent Towers is speaking as an adult. Adults generally interact with the public a great deal more than kids.
I would wager that as much as you say that your kids are free to change it when they turn 18, most kids don’t want to dissapoint their parents, even when they become adults. So they may just keep it and endure the shit that Argent Towers describes.
Need to meet a few more upper class English folks, there’s a few triple and quadruple barrels there. Like Sir Ranulph Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes, aka Ranulph Fiennes, famour explorer. Most of them tend to just avoid using some of the extra ones. Likely the OP’s kid will do the same.
If the kid’s still really young, it’s going to cause him very few problems, and there’s nothing wrong with the mother wanting her son to have her name as well as yours. Hyphenated or double-barrelled surnames are more common in the UK and they don’t cause problems for people, so the same will be true as double-barrelled names become slightly more common in the US.
A lot of people with two surnames use one as a middle name eventually anyway. Your name as the last name makes it more obviously the surname, so it’s more likely to be used as such by other people in the future.
You’re misreading him - he was only ever saying that there’s no tradition for hyphenated names in the US. It would take some of monstrous stupidity to argue that the US has no tradition for surnames at all.
That’s possible. It’s also possible that since we’ve been telling them since they were young that it’s not a big deal to us, explained why we chose it and why their choices don’t have to be our choices (in most areas) and that in fact we chose differently than OUR parents, they might be actually being honest with us and not care. When they’re adults they might feel differently but I will keep sending the message that it’s cool to drop one name.
I’d bet that Argent didn’t like it earlier than being an adult- I’d bet in high school or earlier it bothered him, too. Maybe not. But just maybe my kids’ experience has been different.
Thanks. I’m sure that’s incredibly helpful in a thread asking if there’s a tradition (or rather, “standard”, from the OP) for how to handle a hyphenated last name.
Yes. I didn’t really mind the name much as a kid/teenager. I had a nickname based on the initials that was pretty cool. As soon as I got old enough to have to deal with official stuff on a regular basis, I realized it was a huge pain in the ass and that lots of people were very confused by it.