That’s been our reality since 2016.
^ THIS.
I don’t feel that there’s going to be a massive new wave of chaos by Trump supporters if he wins, but merely the same state of affairs continuing for four more years WITH the added pandemic which shows no signs of letting up, would be enough to make me want to leave the country and not return for a while.
Sometimes. That’s why the officers in the Floyd killing officers are charge with crimes.
We are (or were until the liberals started not cracking down on rioters) a nation of laws and law and order and not anarchy and mob rule and vigilantism. . Just because a crime is committed does not mean you can commit a crime in turn. If person A breaks into Person B’s car it’s illegal for person A to smash person C’s car out of anger, both of us should be arrested and charged to the fullest extent of the law.
What you posted isn’t what happened.
This problem didn’t start with liberals not cracking down on rioters (or with unicorns stampeding through our streets). It started because racists and police officers (and racist police officers) have been shooting black people. And conservatives were, at best, doing nothing about it - and, at worst, were encouraging it.
Black people got tired of being shot and started protesting. And a lot of white people joined them (which is what scared conservatives - they don’t care about black people but they can’t afford to lose white voters). So the result of these protests is some of the people who have shot black people have been held accountable and arrested.
So racism and out-of-control police are what is causing the problem. Protesting is what has started fixing the problem. And considering shooting people is against the law, this means protesting is working to restore law and order.
Should we accept the property damage that is occurring alongside the protests? No. But we shouldn’t go back to the old situation of accepting people being killed. We need to keep working on getting to a society that doesn’t kill people and doesn’t damage property - and our priorities should be in that order.
If people had paid attention when the protesting was as innocuous as kneeling for the Anthem before a sportsball game, rather than freaking out about it, then maybe the larger protests that have occasionally had some violent elements to them would not have ever happened at all.
I think that just about everyone would have preferred that outcome.
Almost everyone. Not Dear Leader. No headlines there. No threat to save the country from.
Indeed, what you said, but there’s even more to it. The entire phrase “law and order”, used politically, means “keep the Blacks in their place “.
So no, we don’t want “law and order”, in that sense.
Yeah, what about all the people being killed? What is the murder rate and who’s doing the murdering? The statistics are interesting yet for some reason they are ignored in favor of focusing on anomalous encounters. Now, does that excuse criminal behavior by the police? Not at all. But it is telling that the vast majority of crime statistics are ignored to focus on one particular aspect in order to exploit it for political reasons.
Why would we focus on murder?
When did murder ever hurt anybody?
To address the OP, Nate Silver’s model finds no evidence so far that Biden is being hurt by the protests. So there’s no good reason to worry about this specific thing right now.
Law enforcement committing crimes is a much more serious problem than regular civilians committing crimes because law enforcement is supposed to act as a check on crimes.
And it should be clear, someone doesn’t want to actually focus on murder, it wants to focus on those ‘Dangerous Darkies’.
I don’t disagree. That doesn’t excuse dishonest narratives to push a political/ideological agenda. Nor does it excuse anarchy. That undermines support for productive justice system/law enforcement reforms.
Are you serious?
Over 90% of BLM protests are entirely peaceful, though are sometimes met with violence by the authorities and those opposed to BLM.
‘These civil rights protests would be non-violent if it weren’t for the fire hoses, attack dogs, and nigger beating sticks we have to use to stop them.’
Many Southern police personal of the past, present, and future
Obviously it’s a matter of the ratio, right? At what ratio does the non-police murder become a bigger problem for you? Perhaps others’ ratio has been surpassed.
If non-police are killing 100,000 to every 1 killed by police, is it time to rethink?
In any case the idea that expectations for law enforcement are higher than the rest of society is kind of the problem. It’s this kind of thinking that leads to police not being prosecuted for their aggressive acts that would land anyone else in prison. Please stop putting police on a pedestal white America.
A common falsehood. Civil rights protestors actually got quite violent before the hoses were turned on them. This is why King was so successful. He basically told them you can deal with us (his buttoned-up peaceful movement) or you can deal with the more violent gun-toting blacks that have been giving you grief for nearly 100 years.
The what now?
Well known to historians of Black American culture was the Frederick Douglas quote
“A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.”
Blacks were heavily armed in the South. It was very much a problem for the local and state governments. A fascinating history if you can find the time.