I bet my conspiracy theorist friend $100

If you suckers had all joined her downline and spent all your money buying inventory and going to motivational seminars and then recruited hundreds of other suckers she probably could have.

So don’t make fun of her. It’s all your fault.

IMO you are unlikely to get paid and your friendship is probably over at the point she refuses to pay. Making bets with insistent adult kooks on the notion they will behave rationally and honorably when the bet comes due is a very bad idea. There will always be 1000 reasons they will offer why the bet wasn’t valid because of man in the moon marigolds.

Don’t spend that money.

Your friend is trolling you.

Oh, you’re friends with Phyllis, too!

I didn’t know what “A4V” meant so I Googled it. The very first website listed advised that you can use this magic set of characters to take care of any payment or debt! I can’t believe I never knew about this! I can’t wait to use it!

The website did, however, add a warning:
[QUOTE=Get Out of Debt Free!!!]
Warning - although organizations are legally obliged to accept this method of payment and members have had success with it, recently, corporations have not been accepting them quite so readily, so please do not be disappointed if they do not accept it or send it back. We suggest you do not use it unless you are prepared for it to be returned and know what to do in that eventuality.
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I’ll take my chances though. Surely MOST corporations will accept my legal and binding “A4V” even if there are a few bad apples who hassle you over it.

I know I’m continuing a bit of a hijack and that Dopers are already well acquainted with the whole Sovereign Citizen thing but an additional bit of advice from the getoutofdebtfree.org whack-site FAQ was just too good to pass up.

[QUOTE=Nutty Nutty Nut-Cakes]

[Q] I am considering using an a4v to pay my rent, is this a good idea?

[A] Probably not, as you could lose your home.

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Even they don’t even seem to believe in the validity of their little game very much. :smack:

This is the first CT I wish would actually come true - about Obama, that is.

Well, that’s your problem right there, thinking she is reasonably intelligent.

There’s no way you can win. When the election happens, she’ll claim it was fake and not really valid. When no martial law is declared, she’ll say it was a secret martial law. When the next person assumes office, it’ll just be a puppet of Obama. Maybe literally!

Cognitive dissonance, of course; being a fruitcake and being intelligent are not mutually exclusive. If anything intelligent people are better at fooling themselves by a combination of hubris and fallacious arguments.

I dunno, I think I’m down to an opening gambit on these people.

“How many times have these predictions of yours actually come true? Because I gotta expect the answer is zero, which is the point where SANE people walk away.”

She also is a person who interprets the Bible literally and I don’t, so we have agreed to disagree about many things over the years and have been able to get along well. She is a good person and a good coworker. I fully expect to never see the $100. I am sure she will find a loophole and continue to feel sorry for me as one of the sheeple. And I will know that I was right and we will continue to work together. :slight_smile:

All you ever need to know about A4V and other nuttery, and why no “magic words” will ever work:

Meads v. Meads, 2012 ABQB 571.

Around 1975, a friend of my mother’s was convinced that, during the coming weekend, Vice President Nelson Rockefeller would unleash his plot to have President Ford killed, so the evil Rockefeller and his minions could :eek:seize control:eek:

You’re the good person. I’d have told her to go sell crazy some place else.

Wait… What?

Wow. This is fascinating reading, and the justice has far more patience than I would in his shoes.

My mother’s co-worker is convinced that there’s a secret color code system for your front doors. Something like based on the color your front door is painted, when the Masons overtake the world, it’ll determine if you’re killed, enslaved or free??? I told her she should have played along and told her my dad’s a Mason and that we’re willing to share the right color with her…for a price.

Can I get a piece of the action?

Sadly, she is not. I have known her for over 20 years. She really believes all this.