I can't stand Ani DiFranco. Convince me otherwise.

Seriously. I’ve tried and tried. She’s one of my wife’s favorite artists. She’s a REALLY good guitar player. She a talented vocalist.

You’d think that all this would add up to “awesome” in my book. But listening to Ani DiFranco is like chewing aluminum foil to me. Can’t stand it. I always want to yell at my stereo, and usually end up fast forwarding.

I think it just has something to do with her attitude, and the songs themselves. I always feel like I should be ashamed of being a man for some reason. She always seems to be saying that I’m a misogynist simply because I am the keeper of a penis.

I usually end up rolling my eyes at multiple times in any given song. It seems like she paints with the Vast Brush of Righteous Outrage a lot, and ends up singing things out of pique or indignation that are, well, bullshit. One song tells how she broke down in Louisiana, and some guy who stopped hit on her outrageously, to which she (of course) replied “Fuck you very much.” My first reaction to this verse, and her delivery, is to reply, “This never fucking happened.” It just smells like an imaginary conversation she had with herself, where she got all worked up over an imagined slight, and said, “Well, if that ever happened, this is EXACTLY what I’d say. Ooooh, I WISH some fucking MAN would say that to me.”

In the same song, she also says something about everybody staring at her in the middle of Alabama, and how she doesn’t think they like the way she dresses, etc.

Horseshit. I’m in Alabama, and I know so fucking many women with piercings, tattoos, short/no/mohawked/etc. hair who dress in every possible fashion, it’s not funny. Nobody ever fucking stared at or whispered cattily about Ani DiFranco. Or if they did, it wasn’t because of the way she was dressed. It was because she was acting like an entitled prima donna with a “social justice” chip on her shoulder.

Alternative story, Ani: I met a young couple at a rock show here in Birmingham recently. They had just driven all the way over from a tiny little town on the border of Alabama and Mississippi to see this band. The guy was a quiet, sort of rednecky fellow, dressed conservatively, pretty thick accent, etc. You’d probably hate him on sight.

The girl was from Utah, had never stepped foot in the South before the previous evening. She was pierced, tattooed, and dyed from head to all visible extremities. She had sleeves. She had neck tattoos. The had eyebrow, septum, and lip piercings. They were both extremely sweet and friendly people.

Now get this: the first time she ever stepped foot in Alabama, she was going to meet his parents (by all accounts, typical rural white Alabamians. Religious, fairly conservative, etc.) She was nervous, to say the least. Know what happened?

She was given a whole bunch of hugs, home-cooked food, a comfortable bed, and a generally royal welcome. She said she had a wonderful time. Now, you would probably say that these people are exceptions to the general pig-eyed, ignorant, Republican rural populace of Alabama. I say these people are the norm, and you have a vastly skewed and adolescent perspective of men, Southerners, and sure, even Republicans.

I got nothing for you. My impressions of Ani DiFranco are pretty much exactly what you wrote, and I’m a chick. Never could stand her.

I like some of her music, but she’s the epitome of the angry lesbian.

Lest I seem like I’m trying to start a fight, I’d love for someone to tell me how I’m wrong, or missing the point, or misinterpreting. I mean, the music’s cool, and she has loads and loads of fans. Surely I’m missing something.

But she isn’t a lesbian, is she?

She’s in the same category as Billy Bragg for me - the idea of both of them is much better than the reality.

Haven’t been familiar with her but because of the title of this OP I looked her up on Wiki and then read the OP. She makes me think of a Burt Reynolds line from the movie Rough Cut: “I’ve only known you for 3 minutes and already I don’t like you for years.”

Why? You don’t like her. Your prerogative. There’s tons of great music out there. Listen to what you like.

I’ve never heard her myself. I know a lot of people who are into her, but by description her music never seemed like something I’d be interested in, so I never delved. I admire her for a couple of reasons though. First, her indie can-do spirit, running her own label and never living by the rules of the majors (same reason I admire Loreena McKennitt, but I love Loreena’s music), and second, she gave the beyond wonderful singer/songwriter Noe Venable a leg up by having her open on a couple of tours. That was before I discovered Noe, or else I might have actually attended Ani shows just to see Noe. As it was, I first saw Noe solo at a my favorite club in the world, Schubas in Chicago, so my first exposure to her music (I had met her once before but didn’t know who she was) was perfect.

Other than that, I’ve got nothing either. Don’t listen. Find something else.

I like a few albums-definitely the 2 disc live and the one with the blue cover art and the goldfish (sorry, an ex maliciously destroyed all my cds and I can’t recall the title). I just concentrate on the melody, vocals and guitar playing and leave the politicking aside. I mean, clearly she travels in a very different “womyn”-esque offederati scene that I’d be laughed out of if I ever tried to penetrate (my registration is still Republican, after all). I guess I like her music enough that she doesn’t annoy me.

Oh, and I totally know the “fuck you very much” song and I also roll my eyes at it. Also the one where she’s all pissed about the studio executive having the gall to like her stuff and thus “sell out”.

I do like Fire Door a lot-it’s probably my favourite.

Because I’m a gigantic fan of music, and I want to think that I’ve misjudged her somehow. As a big music fan yourself, surely you can understand this.

I have thousands, tens of thousands of “something elses”. I want to “get” DiFranco, for some reason. Well, a lot of the reason is that my wife is a big fan.

I like her earlier stuff better. Once she went electric I began to be bored.

“Angry bisexual,” just to be clear, and she doesn’t have nicer things to say about women than about men, either.

You didn’t misjudge her; I think you’re spot on.

For some reason, 4 out of 5 girls that I date turn out to be HUGE DiFranco fans. I have been to more Ani concerts than any 28 year old male has any right to attend, and each one has been more dreadful than the last.

Please let me know when she makes a song that doesn’t sound exactly like every other damned song she’s ever made.

I understand, but sometimes it can’t be done. You can’t force yourself to like someone. I know it’s nice when a couple likes the same music. My husband and I met because of a mutual love of Kate Bush. Then we found that we both love Peter Gabriel, so we have those two artists in common. He’s hugely into Todd Rundgren, and I’m not, though I do like and respect him, but I’m not a FAN FAN. He is. I’m hugely into HTR, and he isn’t. He likes her ok and respects her, I think, but he’s not a FAN FAN. I am. I support and encourage him when he goes off with his brother to see Todd live in distant cities. He supports and encourages me when I want to see HTR live in distant cities. It works out. We share a love of Kate and Peter, but also have our own fandoms. Nobody’s going to convince me to become a big Todd fan and nobody is going to convince him to become a big HTR fan. It either clicks or it doesn’t. How can we convince you to click with Ani? It’s impossible.

Don’t you have any artists in common?

Yeah, I’m picking up what you’re putting down, and generally agree with everything you said in your OP. After hearing so much about her, hearing that she opened for Dylan, and hearing some of her more “mainstream” (for lack of a better word) tracks on my local NPR station, I thought I’d love her, and went to check her out in concert.

Not only the righteous chip-on-shoulder, but the amelodic, arhythmic, every-song-basically-the same music also was a bit of a turn off.

Also, at this concert, there were two dred-locked (caucasian) fans there that would.not.shut.up. during the entire concert (and it was a small-ish venue), so much so that an usher came and asked them to keep it down. Five minutes later, they got up and left, and the concert was less than 1/2 over. As tickets were ~$35 apiece I can only assume that they didn’t pay for theirs.

The whole experience was very irritating.

First road trip with my former wife was a road trip to see a show in Delaware. After the concert, which I enjoyed, wife offered to buy me a poster. The souvenir table was packed about 4-5 deep. After buying the poster, she tried making her way through the crowd. “Excuse me…pardon me…I’m coming out…”

A woman in line put her on the shoulder, smiled, and said “You might not want to use that particular phrase here.”

:smiley:

I can’t stand her whole folky thing, but I love the live version of the song “Untouchable Face” (So fuck you/ and your untouchable face).

I hate her, too, but it’s not because of her songs, which I can’t bring myself to listen to. Because her voice is SO annoying!

This was not a popular sentiment when I was in college in Hippieland. (Santa Cruz, CA.) My sister has a tattoo of one of her lyrics and I can’t even bring myself to listen to the song it’s from.

Great guitarist, interesting vocalist, bores the ever lovin’ crap out of me.

(I generally love the whole folky thing. But not her.)

I also like Alana Davis’s version of 32 Flavors better-although it is totally popped up and “produced” quite unlike Ani’s sound.

I do like her, but I’m not a crazy fan. And that song and that version of it, is probably my favorite of hers.