I didn’t realize Joe Biden was flying quite THIS low under the radar

This. It’s a very smart and very intentional strategy by Biden. I think it’s brilliant and the poll numbers indicate that it’s working. Biden isn’t a polished orator or some super savvy shit-stirrer so him being out on TV would only serve to take the focus off of the catastrophe that’s unfolding every day under the GOP.

It’s the old cliche…don’t roll around in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty but the pig likes it. If Biden is out there slinging mud with Trump it lowers him even when he’s on the right side of things.

Virus is the greatest gift Biden could ever have gotten. They woulda had to keep him under wraps, now there’s a perfectly good excuse.

Now the whole campaign will only be 10 weeks, which is PLENTY.

All they gotta do is trot him out to a podium in a different state once a week or so. He should act like he’s already president.

I love this analogy!

Joe is putting out plans for the economy, climate change, etc. He’s running good ads. No one can accuse him of just totally holding his breath and hiding. But I agree that he doesn’t need to manufacture drama like he would if he were a challenger trailing in the polls. (BTW Hillary never had this kind of lead in 2016, and people hated her a lot more, however unfairly.)

There were a few people here who figured Trump would get some votes just because people figured he’d be more entertaining to watch for 4 years than Clinton (in addition to the Clinton-haters).

Tbh, being “not Hillary” + the bad effects of Trump binge-watching should be enough to get Biden over the hump.

I don’t think this is unusual for a challenger running against an incumbent. The incumbent sucks all the energy because he’s got a job to do and the bully pulpit to utilize. It’s why unseating a president is so hard. Only happened twice since WW2 (not counting Ford who was not elected). On those occasions a bad economic downturn coinciding with re-election was in play just as we are now.

Nope. A slap won’t do it. Trump’s gotta bleed.

SOMETIMES the boring ones are entertaining…

Trump got elected the first time by sucking all the energy–attention whore that he is. At the same time, he could claim that he wasn’t responsible for all the problems he made up in his fantasy lectures on the state of the nation. Now, he’s claiming credit for all the fantasy successes that didn’t happen since he’s come into office, and apparently the dupes who voted for him the first time are starting to realize that a president actually has to do something–but only because a once-in-a-century pandemic is something that you can’t bullshit your way through.

In other words, Trump doesn’t know how to lead. All he does is campaign–put on a bullshit performance. He almost–just almost–got through a whole presidential term on pure bullshit, without being called upon to actually lead. So this election isn’t going to be like those of the past.

Agreed.

I figured that’s where a big chunk of his votes would come from, although I didn’t bargain for it actually being enough to get him over 270 electoral votes. There were a couple news articles from spring and summer 2016 that served as a warning of this phenomenon. I wrote the following about them retrospectively in 2018: [ETA: Discourse decided to bold one paragraph, for no particular reason I can discern. :man_shrugging:t2:]

Trump’s victory reflects a society that has become too wealthy and comfortable and has therefore become decadent, jaded, and always in search of a momentary antidote for boredom such as might be found on sensationalistic reality TV, YouTube videos of horrific accidents or humiliations, or sick-puppy porn. Check out these two excerpts of articles reported from Trump rallies in the summer of 2016, which paint a picture of a large portion of the population seeing the whole thing as a lark, a prank almost. I think most political writers fail to see this because it is hard to imagine being so breathtakingly irresponsible as to vote on this basis.

I myself I had always kind of scoffed at the people who tut-tut and warn that we are heading for a fundamentally unserious and superficial society that irresponsibly seeks absurd spectacle to get momentarily jolted out of its boredom and apathy, but now I don’t know anymore. I’m hoping this taste was enough, and people will realize they should play games with things that don’t matter as much. We will see!

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Victor Vizcarra, 48, of Los Angeles, said he would much prefer Mr. Trump to Mrs. Clinton. Though he said he disagreed with some of Mr. Trump’s policies, Mr. Vizcarra said he had watched “The Apprentice” and expected that a Trump presidency would be more exciting than a “boring” Clinton administration.

“A dark side of me wants to see what happens if Trump is in,” said Mr. Vizcarra, who works in information technology. “There is going to be some kind of change, and even if it’s like a Nazi-type change. People are so drama-filled. They want to see stuff like that happen. It’s like reality TV. You don’t want to just see everybody be happy with each other. You want to see someone fighting somebody.”

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His supporters do not care. Nothing in Trump’s platform matters. There is no policy that matters. There is no promise that matters. There is no villain, no scapegoat, that matters. If, tomorrow, he said that Canadians, not Mexicans, were rapists and drug dealers, and the wall should be built on that border, no one would blink. His poll numbers would not waver. Because there are no positions and no statements that matter to them. There is only the man, the name, the brand, the personality they have seen on television.

Believing that Trump’s supporters are all fascists or racists is a grave mistake. This day in Sacramento presented a different picture, of a thousand or so regular people who thought it was pretty cool how Trump showed up in a plane with his name on it. How naughty it was when he called the president “stupid”. How funny it was when he said the word “huge” the peculiar way he does, without the “h” (the audience yelled back “uuuuge!”, laughing half with him, half at him). In the same way we rooted for Clay a few years ago when he showed up as an actual actor in a Woody Allen movie, the audience at a Trump rally is thinking, How funny would it be if this guy were across the table from Angela Merkel? That would be classic.

Americans who have voted for Trump in the primaries have done so not because they agree with all, or any, of his statements or promises, but because he is an entertainment. He is a loud, captivating distraction and a very good comedian. His appeal is aided by these rallies, and by media coverage, and both are fuelled not by substance but by his willingness to say crazy shit. Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager, has insisted that they “let Trump be Trump” and the wisdom of the strategy is undeniable. As long as he continues to say crazy shit, he will continue to dominate the news and will continue to attract crowds. The moment he ceases to entertain – to say crazy shit – he will evaporate.

Or even before that, people could just get bored. This happened in Sacramento. Just over halfway through his speech, people started leaving. Twenty-five minutes in, he had begun to repeat himself, and he’d started looking down at the podium, reading dubious statistics about Sacramento’s economic situation. People didn’t care. At one point he read from an article he said he’d clipped from a newspaper. He was getting too specific, and the entertainment value was sinking.

People from the front of the crowd started making their way back, and out. It started with the elderly woman in the Veterans of Foreign Wars hat. She, and the two people helping her, squeezed their way through the throng and into the darkness of the hangar. This began a steady flow of the departing. These people had arrived at 4pm, had waited three hours and now, at 7.30pm, they were leaving. Trump was still talking, but they were not worried about missing anything he would say, because they did not care. They had seen him, heard the zingers, taken a picture or two, and now they were heading to the parking lot, to get a head start on the traffic.

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It’s that row of hyphens you typed at the end of that paragraph (which don’t appear in the post as displayed). A line with a few hyphens is a Markdown formatting code to display stuff in bold face. There are a bunch of other similar codes that do other strange stuff.

See here (brief Markdown reference) and here (Greyson’s tutorial thread, much more extensive).
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Thanks, I thought that might be it. But I used the hyphens elsewhere to mark off quoted text in what I wrote originally, yet the others didn’t trigger anything.

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Those hyphens you used elsewhere were some variety of long-dashes, not actual hyphens. Not sure how you got them there without deliberately knowing it. Disco Nanny doesn’t do anything special with those.

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Huh, they got converted somewhere along the line but they were originally all the same.