Hell, the closest thing to live streaming was Sean in chat to his EVE Online buddies, commenting about gunfire and that was it.
It’s bad enough that some people think the president is Kenyan, now I’m hearing that he’s a crocodile.
How many more would die in the War on Iran the chickenhawks on the right want to start?
Afghanistan is a backwards shithole of 30 million people. Iraq was a fairly modern nation of roughly the same size (now 33 million) with a lot of internal divisions that helped and hindered us. Iran is another level, with 75 million people.
Back to the OP. Trollish petulant child who wants to deny his self-declared enemy his humanity. Crawl back under your rock until you develop your own humanity.
I guess Obama is one of those non-sociopaths who routinely orders the deaths of people and enjoys being worshipped as a deity. One of those very common things.
I know I do! Now if only I had minions obeying all those death orders I keep issuing. My desk is piled high with them and it’s getting annoying.
Can any president complete a term with no blood on their hands, without also having screwed up?
As to enjoying being worshipped as a deity- well of course just about everyone would enjoy that. The question is whether or not they recognize that humans cannot deserve worship. Panegyric can be appropriate for great men, but no more.
I think Obama gets this. The notion that he is worshipped is mostly hype, but as far as it goes I think Obama’s brain trumps his vulnerability to flattery &etc. So, probably not a sociopath, but then again I don’t know him personally so I guess I can’t come from a Voice of God POV on this one…
That being the President of our bloodthirsty nation requires committing war crimes is an indictment of the American system and voting public, not a defense of Emperor Bicycle Jesus I.
Heh heh–it’s awesome when a PERL script starts to glitch near the end of a sentence.
Well, played sir. Well played.
So he’s not the messiah, he’s Sobek?
Yeah, you said that in your other thread. It’s still bullshit. Batshit crazy.
You’re defining sociopaths as a spectrum. I don’t think most of the academic world does.
You quote Snopes as if it is a definitive source. What do the primary sources indicate? They indicate that Obama was aware of the attack by 5 pm. He COULD have monitored the attack live from the drone that was redirected from Darnah.
OK. Maybe he wasn’t monitoring the attack on the Embassy. But why wasn’t he? There is only one person who can give the order for the rescue and that would be the Commander in Chief.
The CIA has categorically denied giving orders to stand down on the rescue efforts. But, now the CIA director has conveniently resigned before giving testimony before Congress.
Will executive privilege prevent us from ever hearing the truth about this Benghazi travesty?
Please cite your sources - and make them primary sources before pronouncing a “spanking”.
You gotta be fucking kidding me.
I assume that were Obama to have broken down and cried on camera about the deaths in Benghazi, that the OP would have accused him of faking it.
Snopes is as definitive a site as you can get.
Patreaus still has to testify.
Are you under the impression that because he has resigned he now has some immunity from testifying? Or what?
Okay. I think I was not being clear on my frustrations. I think that there are enough facts that beg the question, “Why didn’t the Embassy personnel get the help that they had requested?”
There are some facts that I have come to accept or at least consider to be reasonably accurate. Please refute them with sources if you would. I don’t want to form opinions based upon misinformation.
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[li]The Embassy staff requested additional security well before the attack but were denied.[/li][li]Their immediate requests during the attack were denied and CIA operatives were directed to “stand down”.[/li][li]The CIA denies ordering anyone to stand down.[/li][li]The Pentagon denies ordering anyone to stand down.[/li][li]The White House denies ordering anyone to stand down.[/li][li]The White House response has been fluid. [/li][/ul]
Just one more question. If Obama was indecisive and didn’t give clear directives to go in and save the Embassy people, would everyone else have to give orders to stand down? Or if he gave “…three very clear directives”, but no one was listening, then maybe that would explain it.
I’m a newby. This is my first time on this website, so I don’t know how to show sarcasm or sincerity. I see that I’m in the BBQ Pit. Thus the ad hominem attacks should be expected?
I would like to know what Patreaus would say under oath - wouldn’t you? But I don’t think Obama would allow that. He has already silenced the investigation into Fast and Furious with executive privilege.
Hello mhashi and welcome to the Straight Dope Message Board. Generally speaking, it pays to lurk a while in order to get a feel for the board. That said, the Pit is the place for insults. Its original intent was to provide a safety valve for the rest of the website, where direct insults are not permitted. You can attack an argument. You can’t attack a poster directly outside of the Pit. More info at About This Message Board.
Great Debates is where politics are discussed. I see there is a current thread entitled, “Benghazigate: How do Liberals see it?” Benghazigate: How do Liberals see it? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board
You might also be interested in the elections thread: “What’s the “final” word on the Benghazi embassy attack?” What's the "final" word on the Benghazi embassy attack? - Politics & Elections - Straight Dope Message Board
I have not read either thread.