I’ve been there too, Shag. I worked as an in-house tech for an insurance company, and talk about fucking personality disorders! A psychiatrist could have done his residency there.
The people and situation were more or less what’s already been described above. You had your basic OJ-non-Training, bitter wrecks in their 50’s and 60’s who had worked so long at insurance that they had forgotten to lose their virginity all those decades ago when they actually had a chance, and high-school politics. I thought I had seen everything, until I saw these 50-somethings sitting around in a meeting catting about some absentee’s thighs like bitchy cheerleaders (except that bitchy cheerleaders tended to be a whole lot easier on the eyes than these Metamucil cases). Straight Outta Chekov, I tell you.
By the time they got around to telling me that I just wasn’t “fitting in” on the team nine months later, I was smart enough to take it as a compliment. I took a job stocking shelves at night at the hardware store for only slightly less pay, and had a great time with the people there.
I’ll also echo everyone else’s sentiments that you’re better off without that job, Shag. You only have one life. It’s better to spend it digging ditches and stocking shelves while being treated with respect by your colleagues than living with a false sense of dignity in some shithole white collar job with blasphemous skanks who don’t have the guts or sense to live their lives decently.
(1)I don’t believe that all white collar jobs are filled with blasphemous skanks. I just had the bad luck to choose one.
(2)I didn’t mean you should work at the ditch-digging forever (unless you like it, of course). I found another job at a skank-less position, and now I’m going back to school.
I just wanted to point out that respect is more important than position.
Shagnasty, your name doesn’t sound so innocent to me. “To shag” means “to fuck” and “nasty” means “nasty.” It also sounds a bit like the hip-hop term “freak nasty,” which doesn’t have very nice connotations.
At my company (not imine*, but the one that owns me), if a new employee doesn’t seem to know what he’s supposed to know, the trainer is called to the carpet and asked to explain.
“You were supposed to teach him this, why doesn’t he know it?”
Of course, I have worked elsewhere where employees gaurded knowledge like it was gold and didn’t want to share it with anyone. That company is circling the drain as we speak.
Even worse are at-will employment states, such as California, where you can be let go at anytime for no reason whatsoever (with the obvious exceptions; race, gender, religion, etc.).
I actually thought most, if not all, states were at-will?
And sorry for what happened Shagnasty. That sucks.
(Rasa, I used to work at an automation hardware company that was being acquired by the one I think you are referring to.
So I had this temp job at an alarm company. The one where if your home alarm goes off it sets off a little flag on a computer and we call the police and stuff.
Anyway, I’m working at the one station where the phone’s hold button doesn’t work. It’s kind of a circular table with about 8 stations ringed around it.
A call comes in for this one particular woman. I tell her so-and-so is on the phone. She says “Oh, just put them on hold and I’ll get to them in a minute.” (Note - there is no way to transfer the call, all lines are on all phones. All she had to do was pick up that line on her phone so I could hang up.) I tell her “I can’t do that, the phone’s broken.”
Just put them on hold and I’ll get to them!
I can’t, this phone’s hold doesn’t work.
What did I just tell you?
If I do what you say I’ll hang up on them.
Put them on Hold! What’s your problem?
My problem is the malfunctioning phone and your lack of comprehension.
…
This goes on for at Least 2 minutes, all the while she gets more and more pissed off at me for being unable to put the call on hold when it is not possible to do so.
Finally, the customer hangs up (probably because she and I were yelling at each other by then ) I tell her so and she yells something about privacy and office and we go into an office with a door.
I expect we’re going to be able to resolve this now. How wrong I was. I start to explain (for the 12th time) that the hold button doesn’t work on that phone, etc. The first thing out of her mouth?
Apologise to me.
???
How dare you challenge my authority in front of all those people!
??? If you care to listen, I was trying to tell you…
I don’t care about that. I am in charge here and when I tell you to do something you do it. I demand an apology.
??? !!! I’m sorry your mental faculties are grossly deficient and that I could’t alter the laws of physics to comply with your request.
What? (She genuinely was confused and was not more incensed by my sarcasm.)
I’m sorry we had a shouting match.
Fine.
So she goes out in a huff. (Actually, it took a few more minutes in there for her to be done being mad, but I forget most of what she was talking about.)
A few hours later the owner of the company comes in. I’m at a different phone by then. He zips right over to the broken one and attempts to make it work about 10 times in a row. It never does. He never even looked at me, but I was watching him and he seemed pissed that the phone WAS actually broken. Then he also left in a huff. I guess she must have called him and given him some story about me deliberately not doing what she said. Sure thing. Yep. That’s me. Mr. Anarchy.
The next day I get a call from the temp agency pretty much telling me I was fired. I didn’t even try to keep the job.
I’ve been fired from a couple of jobs for doing my job.
Airport Security. Saw a guy dressed real grubby/weird picking up expensive luggage. Real polite, I asked to see his luggage claim check. His Father-In-Law pops up. FIL is a lawyer. Screams that I’m harrassing his SIL. Goes to the Boss. Boss drops me like a bad habit.
2)Rec Center Attendant. Part of the job is to see kids don’t get into rough stuff. Two kids beat/rob another, I catch 'em, 3rd kid goes to the hospital. Parents of thief kids come in, 6 hours after I call 'em, & blame me. Fired the next day.
I didn’t get fired, I quit, but I once had the following conversation with a boss…
“You have this…attitude problem.”
“I do? What’ve I been doing?”
“Well, I can’t really say…”
“So have I been acting in a certain way or…?”
“It’s not really anything in particular.”
“So, I have an attitude problem and you can’t tell me what I’m doing?”
“…Right.”
“Ahh, ok. I’ll get right on that.”
I feel for ya *Shagnasty (everytime I read your name I think “shaaagnastayyy!” I don’t know why).
I got hired a couple of years ago at my current job and recieved little to no training and had never done anything like this before(political fundraising and campaign management). It was pretty much a sink or swim type situation, and I was the only one doing it. To make matters worse, I had two bitches on staff who for some reason decided they hated me and wanted to take every opprotunity to make me look stupid. Considering I had no experience in this and no one was willing or able to show me what to do, this wasn’t any huge feat for them, not to mention the fact that my boss HATES fundraising and since I represented fundraising she decided to take out her frustrations on me. Good times. :rolleyes:
Fortunatly, because of my inexperience, they were able to hire me at a “cheap” rate and therefore our cheif of staff wouldn’t let her fire me. Anyhoo, two years later the two bitches are no longer on staff, I’ve got little to no contact with my boss, only my supervisor who thinks I’m terrific because i’ve increased fundraising 200+% since in the last two years, and have recieved a 30% raise + incentive pay and am getting a kickass letter of recommendation from a state assemblymember to get into law school. Glad I stuck around.
My point is, sometimes it’s better to hang on by the skin of your teeth in a crappy situation if the long term benefits are worth it, but if they’re not, fuck 'em.
Probably the same one. I just know people there, bunch of people I used to work with work for That Company Whose Name Begins With I now.
One actually has the same name as the business analyst that trained Shag. But I’m sure he isn’t a business analyst for That Company so it’s probably all just coincidence. It’s funny in a “small world” way.
I’m not interested in debating whether that’s a good and fair policy, but I think we can all see why someone who was stopped for being weird looking might be upset.