I’ll assume that you hit the Submit Reply button before you had a chance to read what you wrote. The reason you will feel carried on in your duplicate is because you have the same memories? C’mon! As you British like to say, “that’s daft!”
For all intent and purpose, your duplicate or splone is nothing more than a very accurate identical twin. You will feel no more carried on in your duplicate as you would in your twin. The only difference between a twin and a duplicate is that the duplicate has your memories in his brain and your twin has his own memories. Your twin’s and duplicates futures are both different from yours.
And further, if by “identical twins” you meant the extra duplicates, they are all “my” POV, bifurcating in different directions from the point of duplication. The original atoms are just as much “me” as the duplicates.
As will your body be in 2008.
Yes. This is what I have now been repeating explicitly for 4 pages.
No, I mean a real identical twin. The kind that did not undergo mitosis since being in utero.
Is there any other difference between the duplicate and the twin except for past memories?
Nothing that is particularly relevent to the discussion, IMO.
If we could simply engrain your past memories into your identical twin, would you feel like him too?
YES.. Like I said back on page 1 several days ago, I am my memories: they are the only constant in “me” since the matter itself continually changes.
If your identical twin had your past memories could we say that you are the same person! Could we point to two people and say, “that’s Bob”?
And you don’t think that your position doesn’t sound a little pseudo-scientific, but mine does???
If they occupied different spatial locations, the memories they were in the process of accruing as you pointed your finger would be different: you could then call one “Bob left” and “Bob right”, because they would not then have identical memories.
No, because I have included links to the biological science which shows that “you” cannot be the atoms themselves since they change so regularly. Again, I answered your question even though I thought it irrelevant. Please extend the same courtesy to me. Your answers should make some reference to exchange of atoms and to the arrangement of those atoms if you do indeed understand basic biology.
No, of course we would find it highly confusing (as you appear to be finding it) to be in that situation; the reason for that confusion is that this never happens in real life, so we simply don’t have the intuitive ability to deal with it.
We would point to one person and say “that’s Bob”, then we would point to the other and say “Oh, hang on, that’s Bob”, then we would be confused about which one was Bob.
You still haven’t managed to explain why one person would be Bob and the other would not.
Does a mother feel carried on into her (real) identical twins? Does she feel as though she is them?
No, because they have different memories (based on occupying different spatial locations at the same time).
Please answer my direct questions.
(warning: the text below contains an analogy: we do not mean “childbirth” in the conventional manner).
The splone experiment is nothing more than you giving birth to identical twins. You (the mother of the twins) died at childbirth. Period.
The red herring is the question: If I died at childbirth, where is the body?
The answer: You died when you were ripped apart. One-half of you went into forming twin number one; the other half of you went into twin number two. You died and your twins live on as their own selves, as independent of each other as they are to their dead mother.
No it isn’t. Natural identical twins do not possess their mother’s memories.
Then you die between now and 2008 and give birth to your identical twin.
How would Bob or Bob reply when you ask them who that other guy was?
Would they say, that’s me?
No, because they are distinguished by the memories they have accrued since the memory transfer.
Please answer my direct questions regarding lungs and death.
Forget right or wrong for the moment, you have to at least admit that your position sounds a bit more outlandish than mine, right?
Science often yields counterintuitive answers which take a while for one to accept. They are still right answers.
Your answers?
Why? According to you, my lungs are going to die tonight and I’m going to asphyxiate before I wake up!