I heard some sports talk radio guy today talking about how Art Modell thanked the fans in Cleveland who supported him in his acceptance speech. Classless fuckhead. I hope he roasts in hell, but before that, I hope he loses the Super Bowl and then never wins another playoff game, ever. Art Modell’s success proves to me that there is no God. Everyone who cheers for that abortion of a team should be objects of public ridicule and scorn.
And as for whether Baltimore fans can live with winning by a cheap shot…the entire team is a cheap shot, and they don’t seem to mind. Two wrongs don’t make a right, Baltimore fans. You gave whiny Art Modell what he wants, and I hope you choke on it. You’re like the girl who steals some other woman’s man. When things go bad, what makes you think that slime isn’t going to go looking elsewhere again, just like he did last time? Every time I hear someone is a Baltimore fan (and mind you, they’re pretty rare, but two or three people haven’t been too ashamed to admit it to me), I can’t help but think that they’re unrepentant whores.
The Giants just gained a HUGE fan base for the Super Bowl. Boring or not, I know more people who are watching just in the hopes that Art Modell and his team of killers, cheaters and slimebuckets will go down.
The 49ers have won FIVE Super Bowls. They may have not won every big game they played in over the past 20 years, but they won more big games than any other team since the 1981 season.
Drain: don’t hold back - tell us how you really feel.
And what were the people of Baltimore supposed to do, exactly - wait and take their chances? As a former Washington Senators fan, I can tell you how well that works.
As Shannon Sharpe said, it’s not like Gannon was playing like Joe Montana before he got bounced by Goose. The Raiders were dominated like a little schoolgirl. Accept it.
Jesus fuckin Christ Libby, you’re better than this. Don’t tell me the pain of being a fan of the four time Super Bowl LOSING Bills has rotted your brain. It’s been 5 years, the NFL gave Cleveland the blow job of all blow jobs to placate them, and still they won’t stop whining! Jesus, every time I hear this I picture an entire town full of people in diapers. Thanking the people of Cleveland was about the classiest thing Modell could have done. The city forced him into a corner where he had no choice but to move, he has been the target of scorn, hate and death threats, villified by a town which he had done so much for for 35 years, and still he thanks them. Were it me, I would have thumbed my nose at the entire lot of them.
I’m an unrepentent whore? Listen, sister, after 14 years of getting screwed by the NFL, Paul Tagliabue and Jack Bent Crook, I have no qualms about getting paid for it. Zero. I can’t wait until the 28th when I get to watch the Sun King hand that trophy to Art Modell in Tampa. The commissioner is so classless that he’ll probably make someone else do it.
As for things going bad? They won’t. The Ravens are the pride and joy of a city that supports football like no other in the USA. Since the team came here, there isn’t a single game that hasn’t been a sellout. Not one, even in the losing seasons. The mighty Raider fans, fawned over by the national media in a saccerine display this past week, sold out exactly 5 games this year, and 2 of them were playoff games. Yea, that’s just wonderful support. :rolleyes:
As to the suddenly huge Giants fan base, it dosen’t matter a bit. You can have every other whining, uninformed jock wannabe in the country rooting with you, it won’t make a fig’s worth of difference. By the second quarter, Kerry Collins will be lying on his back muttering racial slurs and counting the pretty birdies orbiting the lights at Raymond James Stadium, Tiki Barbor will be pondering a Super Bowl stat sheet of negative yards, and Ike Hilliard and company will be wondering if they will ever catch a Collins pass instead of Starks and McCalister.
So post all you want in the above vein. To me it all sounds like the desperite ramblings of a fan who knows their team is outclassed, and is trying to distract attention from that. Giants are gonna get pounded.
GO RAVENS!!!
Boy, some words just go well together! Well said, Drain Bead. Some things just can’t be put any better.
weirddave, I agree. Continuous sellouts are an impressive display of support for a team. Not that Modell didn’t have that in Cleveland!!! Yet somehow he was “forced into a corner.” I guess $50 million from the city of Baltimore makes a great escape hatch, doesn’t it?
Ok, do you want to consider the facts? Or do you just wanna weep and cry for ‘poor ole abused Cleveland.’ The oldest and most run down sports facility in Cleveland was old Municipal Stadium. The most popular team in town was the Browns( althought the concept of constant, complete sellouts is a myth that has been repeated ad nausum) So, what does the city do? They spend three quarters of a billion (with a b) dollars to build the R&R Hall of Fame, Jacobs Field and the Gund Arena. They ASSUMED that the Browns would never leave, and kept putting Art off.( Browns leave? Why, thats unthinkable! That would be like the Colts leaving Baltimore!:rolleyes:)Then they tell Art, sorry, no money left for a new stadium. ( tho they found it quick enough when the NFL told them it was a prerequsite for a new team. Hmmmm. if the situation was that rosy in Cleveland, wonder why the new team couldn’t play in the old stadium? Cuz it wouldn’t have made any money. For God’s sake, people, use your brains for more than paperweights!) IF they had agreed to build the stadium they have now before, the Browns wouldn’t have budged. I urge anyone who doubts what I’m saying to take a few basic level economics classes. What makes a stadium profitable for a team is not a huge number of fans in the seats ( the “true fans”, and I’ll cheerfully admit Cleveland has plenty of those), but the luxury boxes and ammenities that allow corporate money to flow in to the team’s coffers. For God’s sake, they are even renovating Lambeau Field for this purpose, and the goddam community owns the team! As much as you might not like it, football is a business as well as a sport. Take of your kneejerk blinders, people, and look objectively. Cleveland made out as well, keeping their name, tradition, colors, records, getting a new stadium and having the NFL kick in funds. We in Baltimore are proud to have Art Modell as our owner, and nobody will be more pleased than us when he finally hoists the Lombardi trophy in 2 weeks. After 40 years, he deserves it.
I made the reference about the 49ers, cuz let’s face it, the past couple of seasons they have sucked. Big time. Kinda like the Raiders did last Sunday.
Pro football is a cutthroat business. Just ask Phoenix, or Indianapolis. Not to mention Al Davis. They set the standard, the precedent. Modell merely followed it. Go RAVENS!
Well, I’m a Ravens fan, but not a huge football fan. I don’t particularly consider myself an unrepentant whore, more a person who likes to see her city have some sense of spirit and pride, so that instead of arguing about the crime rate and housing costs and Mayor O’Malley, we are all actually joining together over something that doesn’t matter all that much in the long run but matters right now.
Baltimore can be a sad place to live. It’s nice to see people smiling right now, even though it’s temporary.
I would bet that if it was the other way around, Odie, that if one of your precious Raiders had injured Dilfer the same way, you would think it would be fine and dandy. Wake up, Odie, and welcome to pro football.
Yeah, talk about a cutthroat business. St. Louis always had great football fans – but anybody would be distresed about a team Bill Bidwill owns? He destroyed any chances for the Cardinals when they were in St. Louis, but the joke was on Arizona when the team moved. It was an easy move, too, boy. Not much resistance from the NFL. Now, poor Phoenix has the Cardinals.
So, in turn, the City of St. Louis paid a king’s ransom to take away LA’s Rams. I feel bad for the die-hard fans out their on the coast, but you said it, Birdman – it’s cutthroat.
Alright, before any misunderstanding begins…I am not, and never was, a Browns fan. I’m a Giants fan through and through.
So, animosity aside…
Wanna start a QB war here? Mr. Dilfer…feeling all high and mighty now…to show Tampa Bay that he’s “back”…like the Giants give a flying ape-shit. They could have Elvis taking snaps…they’re still gonna nail him like a cheap 2x4. As for Collins’ success…I this it’s the environment that changed him. Originally playing for a “southern” town, I think some of the local attitude rubbed off on him. Moving to NY, has made him a better athlete, and more importantly, a better person. I wouldn’t underestimate him and his wide array fo receivers. Before ya know it, he’ll be lobbing pigskin over your head like it was Christmas dinner all over again. I agree, Tiki Barb**e[b/]r and the “Thunder and Lightning” rushing attack have sputtered and failed as of late…but only to open up the “Air Force” of Collins and his Wingmen, who now hold NUMEROUS Playoff yardage records!
And if the Ravens have ANY hope of winning SuperBowl XXXV, they’d better assassinate Strahan and Armstrong pre-game, or their offense isn’t gonna go anywhere but backwards. This Giants defense obliterated one of the best offense teams in the NFL with Duante, Randy and Chris. Can anyone say, “Sehorn for President!!!”?
Um, Collins put up great records against the VIKINGS. Whose defense SUCKS. The Ravens ain’t the Vikings. I have a feeling that Kerry and Ray Lewis are gonna get REAL well acquainted.
I see a defensive battle, with the first team making a mistake to lose. Ravens, 10-3.
