I hate Conservatives.

I think we’re being too hard on the OP. Puberty, afterall, is a very difficult time. The pimples will go away eventually, Jack. And once the braces come off, you can smile all you want!

I hate conservatives too.

Conserve electricity
Conserve the environment.
Conserve that girl’s virginity.

Man, will you just shut up with your constant preaching and let me get on with the raping and pillaging already?

Thank God you managed to prevent puberty from even happening to you. Who knows how badly you’d melt down if Peter Pan hadn’t come to your rescue.

Interesting phrasing. Methinks you’ve got issues that have nothing to do with politics.

It’s called realizing that you don’t need any sort of arguments, you need a baby sitter.

And no, I didn’t expect you to actually address the examples I posted of SDers flailing around and making idiotic arguments they refused to own up to when they got busted with the facts. This is the BBQ pit after all, and your responses are pretty much totally predictable.

Newbie comes in, fists a-flailing. Thinks he’s got all the answers, and is going to educumate us poor, uninformed souls. Flames out in the Pit, mostly spurned by people on his own side.

News at 11.

I’m quite enjoying The Jackalope so far. He’s holding his own. A little over the top, sure, but he’s fighting fire with fire. Even if he hates Conservatives, he’s utilizing their techniques quite well.

He’s right about one thing … liberals in congress need to grow some balls.

So am I, but if he doesn’t let go of his own soon, he is going to get calluses on it.

Regards,
Shodan

Needs much more “I’m more intelligent than any of you!” to really complete the effect, though.

Give it time. Part 1 of 3 OPs can’t be far away. :slight_smile:

“There was…no charity involved… We wanted to pay these wages so that business would be on a lasting foundation. We were building for the future. A low wage business is always insecure. The payment of $5 a day for an eight-hour day was one of the finest cost-cutting moves we ever made.”

  • Henry Ford

I don’t recall you posting any cites in ‘debate’ with me, though I acknowledge that you have attempted to do so with others. Some of your claims, such as Chinese factory workers being able to afford the products they make are simply factually incorrect, so I don’t expect you to be able to provide a cite for them.

But what are proposing IS isolationism, whether you call it that or not. For instance, if you only add tariffs to goods imported from low-wage countries, what’s to stop UK or Canadian companies just importing from China, doing the minimum amount of ‘assembly’ to qualify it as made in the UK and them exporting to the US? Nothing, partial tariffs make no sense. The problem with this whole debate isn’t that everyone disagrees with you about off-shoring/out-sourcing being a problem, it’s that your solution is FUCKING STUPID.

See ‘infantile posturing’.

I admit I made a big mistake of overestimating these guys and worse yet, taking them seriously.

Apparently you’re unfamiliar with the bastions of liberalism that are Chicago and DC.

That’s 2 cities, not an entire nation.

Excessive Liberalism can get to be as bad as excessive Conservatism. Woah. Did I say that? :smiley:

There are slaves in Chicago and mass genocide in DC? That darned liberal media has misled me again!

Other way around.

See, I think you’re mixing up how I’d like to see Democrats act (i.e. maybe a tiny bit less like humongous pussies) and how I’d like to see liberal citizens act. I don’t expect Democrats to win political battles through reasonable dialogue alone. But the tactics that are unfortunately necessary to be successful in politics serve only to make one an obnoxious dick in regular society.

You may never convince a die-hard conservative of anything through reasonable factual discourse. But if one of you is yelling insults and being an ass and the other is explaining their position in clear, intelligent language, one of you is going to be a lot more successful in swaying observers to the discussion. Hint: it’s not usually the one who is acting like a huge douche.

Le Jacquelope I feel much better now that you’ve outed me as a secret conservative. Whew! Now I can really fit in around here!

<goes off to hug Bricker and Shodan>

Ew - liberal cooties.

Regards,
Shodan