Yeah, but according to your own words, you’ve already settled that “debate”:
“I’m looking forward to seeing the system fall apart and the country starting all over again”
You talk of your family - you really want your children & grandchildren to live in a collapsed society? :dubious:
I’m more retributionist than isolationist. I would be happy to have free trade with a China that wasn’t engaging in unfair trade practices.
Free trade isn’t always beneficial if the other side is cheating.
Well, this:
is worthy of this:
and little more.
Ummmm, you do realize that there are a lot more liberals than conservatives both on the SDMB and in this thread? And none of them are on your side? Maybe you should expand your hatred a bit.
You know, I actually defended Obama when my mom claimed that he wants to destroy the county so it’s easy to start over as a communist nation, but I didn’t think I’d ever see a liberal on the boards stupid enough to admit that he wants to see the country in ruins even if Obama doesn’t. I stand corrected.
Modern American conservatives are thoroughly loathsome. They seem to think that their hatred and ignorance and threats of violence will get them what they want through bullying. It won’t. They are going to find out that the majority of Americans see them for their racism and McCarthyism, their lying propaganda and redefining of reality and reject it all over the next few election cycles. This cycle will not go as well for them as they hope. I hope.
Welll, I’m glad to hear that my investment in that pig aeronautics academy will be paying off…
Better you should put your money in umbrella manufacture, 'cause when pig flop starts dropping from above, umbrellas are going to be very much in demand.
First of all I have people I can count on if hell breaks loose. My daughters have great toys and a lot of fun seeing the country but they know and are great friends with neighbors. We’re not a compound and we’re not the Sarah Palins. My eldest wants to be a brownie scout in 2 years. I’m not wishing hell upon my kids.
Now about how I feel about Conservatives: you think I’m awful or un-civil?
Have you read up on what’s going on in Europe lately? Those liberals RIOT for their beliefs. What you call “internet badass” behavior doesn’t even light a candle to what the Greeks recently did. Or the French, when some of them brazenly kidnapped corporate execs. Them fuckers know how to party like us American liberals only WISH we could.
Liberals in America used to riot over important shit. Now we sit on our hands and let the Right verbally spit on us, burn our leaders in effigy, call our leaders’ daughter the “White House dog”, and wring our hands while they bring guns to townhall meetings. Conservatives call us named and talk about watering the tree of liberty with our blood while they back this rhetoric up with flying planes into IRS buildings, blowing up FBI buildings, shooting abortion clinic doctors and hanging out in the boondocks doing shooting practice.
Have you liberals been watching the price and sales statistics of firearm ammunition lately? You should be. It’s a warning sign.
In Europe? Liberals over there don’t take that kind of abuse. They deal it. The Tea Party only wishes they could throw down like the French. We on the other hand want to play nice and civil and “get along”.
Let’s look at how successful we’ve been in trying to get along, the way Giraffe wants. We lost the chance to get the Public Option. Retirement for Social Security is up to 67. We have the least amount of vacation days in the civilized world. Our wealth inequality is one of, if not the worst in the civilized world.
Now let’s look at the Europeans who are want to riot and throw it down: their retirement is much earlier, they have more guaranteed vacation days than us, their work hours are shorter, they have Universal Health Care, and their U6 unemployment rate actually dipped below ours in 2009. (It may still be lower.)
If I lived in Europe I’d be a part of their protests… which are a lot less civil than I have ever been here.
You go ahead and get along with the Righties. Good luck with that when November comes along. May the wisdom of your approach be judged by its results.
Ciao.
We arose from the ruins of the Great Depression to become a better country.
We arose from WW2 a better country, because we won and everybody else lost.
Those aren’t “beliefs” in any meaningful sense; they’re “benefits” (I almost wrote “entitlements” but that’s a different can of worms to open).
I can understand why the folks on the Continent would feel strongly about attempts to cut social benefits to which they have become accustomed - we narrowly missed the recent cut on UK child benefit ourselves, and I know that if they tried to abolish the NHS there would be blood in the streets of London - but I’m not sure I’d classify all of their anger as being principles-based. Some of it is just about money.
ROTFLOL!
I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there.
Keep it up, amigo. I haven’t seen anything this funny since I last watched the chimps in the monkey house at the zoo doing their thing.
Glad you find it amusing. Do you have anything substantive to say about it or are you just going to continue to giggle and play with yourself?
Oh my god it’s catching. Looks like a severe case of Conservative kuru.
The Democrats care [del]deeply[/del] [del]a lot[/del] somewhat about the working poor in America but tend to talk down to them and don’t connect. The Republicans don’t give a damn about them and frequently act to screw them over but are very good at getting them to vote against their best interests by appealing to fear, hatred and blind patriotism.
How’s that clingy gunny thing workin’ for ya?
Exactly so.
Well… it’s good to get it out of the way when they’re young, like measles.
I’m confident I could engage in a serious thoughtful debate over the political divide. I have my doubts Jac can, though. Sooner or later he’d try to score points through insult, left with no other ammo.
I don’t need to say anything more about it. His stupidity shines through like a spotlight.
And you are apparently drawn to it like a moth.
Because no TRUE SCOTTSMAN ermm I mean CONSERVATIVE would have run up the national debt and the deficit during the last 30 years like the Republicans have done. Nope, and its all Obama’s fault anyway.
And what do Dems REALLY want to do?
If you loved your country, so would you.