Done.
Imagine Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig.
Tasteless, yes, but funny as hell.
Also, there’s this Robot Chicken short. “This is a no-no!”
What’s up with all these rape threads? There are four going on right now. Has someone been getting some unexpected action?
I spent almost two years dating a girl who had been raped some years before. “She’s rape-able” comments and other things that use rape as a way to say “she’s hot” are completely vile, since they imply rape is okay as an expression of desire. I don’t really care that the people using it don’t mean it - that’s what’s implied and it’s repulsive.
On the other hand, even after I tried to be sensitive about it, I realized that the girlfriend in question had no hangups about using the word rape as a sarcastic adjective, which is the way all the kids are using it these days. Things like “That midterm raped me in the ass” didn’t bother her, she said it all the time. That kind of forces you to accept that rape jokes aren’t the worst thing in the world. I still avoid them because all you need to do is run into one rape survivor who doesn’t think it’s funny and you’re a total asshole.
“Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig” is a George Carlinism, by the way.
Are we sure we know where that fist has been?
Tasteless, black and vile it may be, but when it’s funny I laugh like hell.
And please don’t tell me that I wouldn’t find it funny if it happened to me. It did happen to me, nearly eight years ago.
I am rare in my opinion that rape is no worse than any other physical assault, and certainly not as bad as being burned alive or having my spine broken with a crowbar. That opinion is one I only came to after it happened to me.
It’s also not safe to assume that just because someone was ‘affected by’ a particular thing, they will dislike any joking about that thing. I’m not bothered by jokes about rape. They’re either funny, or they’re not, like any other joke. It’s a rare occasion that I don’t have someone knowingly or unknowingly offended on my behalf as a ‘rape victim’ as soon as a joke comes out.
I think it was George Carlin who said, ‘Picture Donald Duck raping Porky Pig and then tell me rape can’t be funny.’
I used to think it was the most horrible thing that could happen to someone.
Then it happened to me.
And then I thought ‘You know, there are a lot of things worse than that. Like being beaten into a coma…’
I don’t consider it more serious than other physical assaults. This opinion has gotten me lambasted in a lot of places, but that’s what my experience has instilled in me.
I’ve also expressed the opinion that one of the reasons I think rape is so much worse and harder to get over than ‘merely’ being beaten or stabbed or shot is that the message that comes through from all around is ‘You will never get over it. You will always have fear, always feel violated. It is worse than anything else that could happen to you.’ I’ve even heard it called ‘worse than death.’
My response to that, for the last eight years, has been ‘I’ve been raped, but I’ve never been murdered. Given a choice, I’ll take being raped again.’
Well gigi, I think you’ll wish you hadn’t asked, but…
It’s a joke about Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (“crib death”, “cot death”). The poor little pink corpse has rigor mortis when mommy finds it in the morning, geddit? Hence the tears.
Must be a generational thing; to me, guys talking about “rapable” girls sound like dorky frustrated losers. Aren’t the cool guys supposed to be ones that girls, you know, consent to have sex with?
Reacting to the sight of a hot chick by wishing you could rape her comes across as just totally pathetic, IMO—like you’ve completely given up on the idea that a girl could have sex with you willingly, and the most you can hope for is to fantasize about forcing yourself on her.
It’s not meant literally as in the girl didn’t give consent. It’s meant in the sense that he’d like a different variety of sex than missionary-with-the-lights-off for ten minutes before going to sleep under separate blankets.
What it brings to my mind is the kind of romp-around-the-house-knocking-over-furniture-while-screwing-on-the-coffee-table type sex where various toys, rooms, positions and potentially food items come into play, as well as perhaps role-playing games. The kind where you end up with scratches and bruises not because either of you was forced but because you were buck wild into it.
Got another single word for that image?
Yeah, fuck.
Doesn’t really give me the same mental image.
Sorry for the hijack - but I appreciated hearing this today. I had a low-energy day and this was a pleasant pick-me-up. Thanks.
Huh. In my 43 years I have heard a lot of guys use a lot of expressions implying longing for sex without using the word “rape”, from “I could do her all night long” to “I’d cheerfully fuck her brains out” to “If I found her in my bed tonight then I’d know there was a God” to “She is pure fuckability”. Never once did any of them give me the impression that what they were hoping for was “missionary-with-the-lights-off for ten minutes before going to sleep under separate blankets”.
All of those things really seem kind of bland to me in comparison.
Then again, the literal meaning of a word is often not even close to what it means when it’s used in such informal slang.
Things are ‘the shit’, or ‘cool as hell’ or maybe I’d like to ‘maul’ that hot guy that I met at the bar.
Just tell them that there are a lot of guys in Pelicun Bay who’d like to rape them.I can take a joke about a subject like this if it has a legitimate point. Comments like this, however, are just adolescent, gratuitous and asinine. Adoloescents don’t need to be encouraged to be more adolescent. They need to be encouraged to be more adult. That’s why we have this word in the first place (“adolescent”). Maybe they’ll grow out of it, but if they continue, maybe they’ll become part of that group of (largely men) who believe that no woman is ever “raped” (after all, they never “get to do it”). Words have a way of doing that.
But were they indicating that they would like to do it whether she agreed or not, including over any protests she might attempt, and with any degree of force necessary?
No, but as catsix noted, it’s unlikely that the teenage guys that Aangelica was talking about really meant their use of “rape” in that way either.
As Aangelica said, they were probably just trying to sound “cool and edgy”. They just didn’t realize that their slang might unintentionally give a less flattering impression: e.g., that (a) they were actually advocating sexual violence, or (b) they were pathetic losers who had given up all hope of ever scoring any consensual sex.
Professor asks a student.Wheres your room mate. He hasn’t been in class the last couple days. He replies,a couple blonds grabbed him in the parking lot ,took him in a van and sexually attacked him repeatedly. Prof says sorry to hear about it,is he in therapy or something like that. No he replies we can’t get him out of the parking lot.
Well, the word rape certainly doesn’t give me the “hanging from the lights monkey sex” mental image.
It depends on the context.
I mean if I hear that my neighbor got mauled by a coyote, I don’t think ‘Lucky bastard. I love a good mauling.’
But if I hear that my neighbor mauled (example, not meant to be taken as statement of fact) Evgeny Malkin, then it brings to mind a whole different image.
Context, inflection, environment, these all have an effect on how a word is taken.
Consider:
That game is the shit.
That game is shit.
Same word, worlds of difference in meaning.