I’ll take the rapists for $100, Alex
Sorry, there isn’t a context where the word rape gives me a monkey sex image. But I’m old and don’t think “that game is the shit” gives me the image that the speaker intends to convey either.
Perhaps a better example: “kick ass”.
“That game is kick ass!”
“Damn, my brother totally kicked my ass playing poker last weekend.”
That’s funny- everyone who I’ve ever heard say it was a dorky frustrated loser. And I always thought that the fact that they would call girls “rape-able” said a lot about the reasons they weren’t getting laid.
You can’t think of a better word than “rape” for this? Ma’am, you are having what is known in the business as a critical vocabulary failure. Rape, to me, could in no way convey really exciting, wild, consensual sex. Your insistence that it does is, well, deliberately obtuse at best, perhaps disingenuous. But I sense this is an argument you’ve had before and are well girded for this, so we can just give it a pass, as long as you admit that your vocabulary is sorely lacking in descriptors for wild monkey sex if this is the best you can do.
As for rape jokes, I do think George Carlin said it the best, maybe it was in the extras for The Aristocrats? It’s an amplification of his contention that yes, you can joke about rape. You can joke about anything, if it’s funny, like Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig (why do you think they call him Porky?). Running up behind a girl and yelling “RAPE!” at the back of her head is not funny. It’s dumb and mean. It’s not even really a joke-- people who do shit like that call it a joke so they can avoid the consequences for being an ass. A joke is something you say that’s funny. Yelling “rape” at someone ain’t a joke in any real sense.
I think it’s challenging to formulate a joke about rape that’s actually funny. If you can do it, then knock yourself out. I can use a good laugh, on any subject. If you’re just trying to upset people so YOU can laugh at them while they feel bad, then that’s another animal entirely. Do it at your own risk, is the caveat.
“Fuck wildly.”
If you want to include unsubtle overtones of control and dominance, then you have any choice of “claim”, “ravish”, “take” pr “take forcefully”, "ride’, “thrust into”, “use”, “violate”, “penetrate”, “claim the innocence of”, or “forcibly drive to a paroxysm of screaming ecstasy”.
Yes, I write romance novel porn. It shows.
[70’s Kung Fu movie with bad overdub] My crouching tiger will surely defeat your shaking fist of anger! [/7kfmwbo]
I believe " hotmonkeylovin’ " conveys it adequately. As in “I had me some hotmonkeylovin’ last night - with your Mom!” 
BTW, catsix, I’m on the same page with regard to rape vs. other assault/murder in regards my own experience, although HIV makes it a very different ballgame nowadays where I live.
Thanks. I hadn’t heard the term cot-death and was afraid to google it since I thought it might be sexual :eek: or some sort of pun I didn’t get. :smack:
Kimstu has a winnah. They weren’t all loser dorks (actually, the loser dorks were less likely on average to adopt the speech pattern - they pay more attention in general).
To give them credit, when I pointed out to them they were being assholes, they quit and looked really embarassed about the whole thing.
I can probably even guess at the entymology of the whole thing - someone went looking for the vilest verb they could come up with to describe a bad bad thing, came up with rape and presto! Slang is born. It’s still lame of them - but they’re young and stupid. They’ll learn!
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Buzz words?
Even if you remove the ‘r’?
A man and a woman walks into a bar. Then he raped her.
I think anal rape jokes are funny.
I’ve never come across a rape joke until this thread. I can’t imagine why anyone thinks they are funny and it has nothing to do with the fact that I experienced a scary attempt to rape me when I was in my early teens.
Because it doesn’t to you, it must be completely impossible?
Your opinion does not decide the lexicon of slang.
Your argument basically boils down to ‘If you disagree with me, you are wrong. I am right because I disagree with you.’
Nothing else puts it so succinctly. My vocabulary isn’t lacking because you disagree with the colloquial meaning of one word. You are hardly the dictator of meaning.
So if you don’t laugh, it’s not a joke?
I really hope that you’re not trying to draw some distinction between me and people who have been raped, because there isn’t one.
Aside from the fact that romance-novel style porno writing is hilarious to me, let’s just examine some of those terms you used: ravish, take, take forcefully, use, violate, claim the innocence of, and forcibly drive to a paroxysm of screaming ecstasy.
Yeah none of those show any element of a lack of consent.
You could get HIV in other assaults too, particularly if you fight back.
Some people really like gallows humor, black humor, dark humor, or whatever you term it. There are jokes, funny and unfunny, about every dark subject from rape to the Holocaust.
I’ve been raped. I’ve had family members and friends that were raped, too.
I find most rape jokes to be the funniest things on the planet. The humor is only present, much like in dead baby jokes (Q: How many dead babies does it take to paint a house? A: It depends on how hard you throw them.), because you know the person telling the joke isn’t serious. When they start being serious it gets creepy.
I’ve used the term “rape-able” before. The definition my friends and I came up with (a few years back, before I ever heard anyone else use it…) was "Someone who is so attractive to me that I might lose my senses and violate them on the spot. The implication is not that I would rape them intentionally, but that they were SO attractive (or maybe released some sort of pheromone) that I’d lose my sense of judgement, morals, and decency and take them, right there. Obviously, this is impossible for a number of reasons (While I don’t doubt that females can rape males, I do doubt we can do it as swiftly as men can unless they’re doing it for a whole different reason), which is why the term was so funny to us.
That said, I don’t see why people get their panties in a twist over something like a joke. A joke is a joke. It’s never meant seriously. Just because you take something seriously that wasn’t meant in that light doesn’t mean I need to watch my mouth. You need to lighten up. Don’t take everything so damn seriously, including yourself, or you’ll probably wind up old before your time.
~Tasha
catsix:
I think this is an issue based on frequency of word usage. When I’m not comitting acts of purple prose, the term that I use for the sex you describe is in fact ravishment. I’ve never heard rape used in the way you describe, as a method of describing raw, primal lovemaking that rides the boundary between pleasure and pain. You, apparently, have, apparently with at least some frequency. Based on the comments in the thread, I would humbly posit that you have been exposed to a non-representative sample of people who use ‘rape’ to describe passionate sex.
Yes, the majority of the terms I listed have (as I mentioned) a very strong overtone of dominance and possible non-consent, but they’re overtones. ‘Rape’ has actual denotative meaning of non-consent. Using a word as a figure of speech or a superlative when it has an actual, syntactically-valid meaning quite different than what is intended strikes me as odd.
Well, it sort of does if you want people to think that your jokes are, you know, funny. A lot of people seem to have the idea that as long as they can scold their audience into not complaining about the jokes they tell, that means that the jokes are good. Unfortunately, it ain’t necessarily so.
Sure, you have the right to tell any kind of jokes you want. And your audience has the right to let you know if they think your jokes are offensive, tasteless, or just plain stupid. Just because you don’t mean it seriously doesn’t automatically imply that you have succeeded in making it funny.