I just watched a Sharron Angle tv advertisement. Debunk this?

Printed in block letters on the screen were the words “Harry Reid voted to use taxpayer dollars to give Viagra to convicted child molesters and sex offenders.”

What in the world is she talking about?

Probably from Medicaid covering Viagra - which apparently has been used by prisoners.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7946129/

More likely one of the Republican amendments to the health care bill. In particular, the one proposed by Tom Coburn during the final votes to pass the changes the House made to the Senate bill by using reconciliation.

You are listening to Angle? Why?

She’s acute.

Obtuse.

I note that no one has actually tried to debunk Angle’s ad yet. No problem, I can do it, and I can do it with an article already linked to in the thread (by wevets):

“Federal officials”. Not something that happened as a result of a Senate vote. Sharron Angle is lying (again).

No, that’s not accurate.

Let’s rewind to early this year. The Senate had passed the health care bill, which the House sought changes to. However, the only way to pass the health care bill and make various changes was for the House to pass the Senate-passed bill, and then propose a separate bill with a package of changes.

The House passed the health care bill and a separate bill with those changes. The bill with the changes then went to the Senate, where it could either be approved in toto, or amended and sent back to the House for further votes.

In a last-ditch effort to derail health care reform, the Republicans in the Senate proposed dozens of amendments on a wide variety of topics: everything from prohibiting Viagra for child molesters, to guaranteeing that veterans would continue to get health care from the VA, to insuring there would be a referendum in DC on the question of gay marriage, to cutting taxes on families, to increase funding for breast cancer screenings, to guaranteeing veterans couldn’t be denied their Second Amendment rights – in short, any damned idea that would be hard to vote against.

Democrats in the Senate, fearful that adopting any amendments could blow up the effort to get the health care bill finally passed, voted against ALL these amendments - about 40 of them.

Yes, it is a fact that Reid voted against an amendment to ban coverage for Viagra for child molesters. He would have voted against a resolution calling Hitler a bad man, because all those amendments were intended for nothing else than to sink the health care reform bill.

ETA: I should say it is highly misleading to say that Reid voted FOR giving Viagra to child molesters. He voted against an amendment that would have banned that, but this is straight-out liar, liar, pants on fire to think that Reid actually supports giving the little blue pill to the Chesters of the world. I mean, seriously, get real.

Further reading: http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/more-malarkey-about-health-care/index.html

Is that right?

She is not a right Angle. She is a wrong angle.

Just out of curiosity, is Angle still running away from reporters? Nevada Dopers, can you update me on this?

Thanks for the correction - my earlier post was a guess based on vaguely-remembered scandal about medicaid from years ago, and I hoped someone who knew more about it would come along, which has happened. :slight_smile:

I would imagine that most Nevadans are smart enough to know that Reid would never vote for such an expenditure - even if he were evil, wouldn’t he know better than to vote for such an idiotic bill? I wonder if that ad would actually have much of an effect, since the independents are the ones who need to be convinced, not the die-hard conservatives, who are unlikely to vote for Reid even if they note the implausibility of the ad.

Well, I’m not entirely confident of that. After all, a couple of common recent memes in politics have been that elected officials don’t read the bills they vote on, and the the recent health care bill was too lengthy for anyone to have read completely. I could see some of your less-informed voters falling for that.

Nevertheless, even if I didn’t already think that Angle was an unqualified crackpot, the quoted ad is such a disgusting presumption of voter idiocy that if I were a Nevada resident, I think I’d have to cast my ballot for Reid just on general principles.

Just to pipe up from a medical angle, Viagra isn’t simply an erectile dysfunction drug. It’s also a cardiac drug (and was that first). I would be appalled if we kept a good medicine for a heart condition away from a prisoner with a bad ticker simply because it’s *also *used to give other people erections.

So even if this guy did vote to make Viagra available to prison populations, or against taking Viagra away from prison populations, simply on a medical level, I’d have to support that. The spin from the opposition is reprehensible.

When erections are outlawed, only outlaws will have erections.

You’re getting your crazy tea people mixed up. It’s Christine O’Donnell who’s a cute.

Its like her mind is a demolition derby, where all the cars back off three hundred yards and floor it, meeting at a given center at 200 mph is a merged mess of chassis, tranny, wheels and gears. She’s a wreck tangle.

Wait, she’s a tranny?

She came out today and reversed almost all her previous positions. Suddenly there is no problem with Social Security. It does not need to be privatized after all. Now I am convinced. She will not eliminate the V.A. Unemployment benefits should not be eliminated. By George, i think she’s got it.

Its just a reflex