I may be a "chink" but I'm not FUCKING DEAF

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Slamming a solid object into a person does, in fact, mean that you laid a hand on them according to the normal usage of the phrase. Did you forget:

Oopsie, sounds like you’re an idiot.

Yeah, because of scum like yourself who think that threatening a 12-year old kid and his sister over a possible insult that he denies he said and apolgized for anyway. Assholes who believe they’re justified in assaulting people (especially women and children) up over an imagined slight are a far bigger problem than 12-year-olds who might or might not have used a bad word. Still, if it makes you feel like a big man to threaten a kid who’s falling on the ground apologizing for a possible slight, then to follow him and his sister home in what you admit is an attempt to continue to scare them, there’s not much I can do to change your mind.

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Where the fuck have you been? It’s can get muuuuuch lower than this.

An adult who assaults a child (this was assault, don’t kid yourself), has a fucking screw loose. At least the OP admits he’s a rage-a-holic.
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Or he’s full of shit.

I’m still straddling that fence.

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I like the fact that you are so offended by the word “chink” and then call is sister a “twat.”

'Course a gender slur and a racial slur aren’t at all the same thing are they.

(And I’d come in here all set to agree as I have a Korean son who has already been called chink).

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sorry “fucking twat” even better

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So there’s a kid on the outside of the gate, holding it shut so his two friends can’t get out. He calls Madawc the dirty name and Madawc storms over there and slams the gate open into his chest and face. So why is one of the other two now holding the gate closed?

I call shenanigans on this one.

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Probably already been said countless times but.

:eek: you WAY over-reacted there!

I would have stopped at “no, no, no…” (kid) and maybe said something like “Good, cos if you did say what I thought you said I’d put you through that wall” and walk away.

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Madawc probably shouldn’t have done that.

Ever hear a young kid use the N-word in a grocery store? Usually they don’t hear it from their parents, but some other neighborhood kid, and the kid himself is too immature to have the full knowledge of the gravity of such words. So there’s nobody to blame, and the worst that might happen is the kid is given a few dirty looks.

I’d say the same should have been done here. Even if it happened just as the OP claims, walking away would have been the most mature response. Just below that would have been saying “hey punk, you might want to watch what words you use around people,” and accepting the apology.

Sounds to me like Madawc just has a chip on his shoulder and went out of his way to take far more offense than a 12-year-old should ever have the power to give. Then to compound that, he got physical with the kid, and got in both his face and his innocent sister’s. There sure was alot of immature behaviour in this story, and most of it on Madawc’s part.

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For what it’s worth, at the common law assault isn’t hitting someone; assault is making them fear that you will. “Battery” is the actual hitting, which is why the two are so often linked together as “assault and battery.”

But if you put someone in reasonable apprehension of immediate bodily injury, then you have assaulted him or her. As the OP’er assaulted this kid – if the incident really happened, which I kind of doubt, but since I can’t put my finger on why I think it’s bullshit, I’m not going to call it bullshit. At least not out loud.

Oops.

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Jodi, you’re too funny. Oops indeed :wink:

Anyhoo, do I understand correctly? If I’m out somewhere and a person threatens me with bodily harm “I’m gonna kick your ass for driving so damned slow, lady!” and I believe they’re not kidding around, I can have them arrested for assault, even if no physical violence has occured?

I did not know that.

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Assuming that the story’s true, it’s this part that gets me:

**You followed them home?!! What kind of psychotic bastard are you?

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Christ, Man. It’s just a word. Way to act like a “chink”. Whatever the hell that means.

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I followed them to their apartment complex, which is on the way to my home… I was walking my dog, it was a coincidence that they were walking slowly in front of me.

This in fact is a true story, I’m not proud of it, but it is true…

I never ever threatened the kid with a statement that I was going to kick his ass. He was reeling aback at his own fear of the crazy “chink” that I was being.

Im male, age 25, 140pounds, 5’8". Nothing huge to be scared about.

His girlfriend or sister wasn’t all calm to me, she said “what the fuck is your problem?” cursing me out to shut the fuck up and leave her friend/brother alone.

The only thing I said that was threatening was that I better not ever see them around the parkette again or I’ll make sure I’ll call the cops for the hate crimes they committed. Was a weak threat but that was the only threat I made to them.

There were in fact some other passersby that heard the comment as well. They didn’t want to intrude on my rage but they did stand by and make sure nothing got out of hand.

Again, this is not one of my proudest moments, but for those of you who would call the cops on me or my ilk would be so clueless to the fact that there was a racist remark said. I am not hard of hearing and in fact do hear lots of racist shit when walking my dog. He DID in fact say CHINK and not CHUMP. the “ink” sound and “ump” sound have a totally different anounciation.

I guess this was a straw to be broken sooner than later, since about a year ago, several teens even said in my earshot that it is “nippy” outside and another said “I chink so”. As I walked by and that sure made me stop and tell them to apologize. I was a little bit more calm on this event, but again I was cursing like a sailor for them to say sorry. They denied ever saying the lines and just left never to be seen again in the neighbourhood.

The thing about what I said to his sister/friend, I never called her a twat or bitch. I did say get the fuck out of here you know shit, and shut the fuck up to her, but I did not perpetuate a sexist or bigoted remark as a zinger. I am probably a racist myself or too racially sensitive, but I never used racist remarks in the encounter.

Oh well, you won’t be seeing me apologize to you in the SDMB, even though I know I was out of line, nor would I make amends with the little shits that thought they could get by using the word “chink”. If you think this is the lowest, I guess you havent read some of the other stuff I wrote hehe…I do apologize for taking your time to read such drivel where you could have done something more productive with the minutes I took from you.

and lastly, this was Pitted for the excessive use of sentence enhancers, I didn’t know where this thread would fit in my whole need to get this shit off my chest kinda thing.

I’m glad to see that many people replied and giving perspective to the whole thing. “Hindsight is 20/20”. But as a visible minority I think it is quite difficult to get by in this screwed up world to not face racism and not somehow blow a gasket…

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Well then, since you are bereft of remorse or even a clue, I guess the only thing left to say is perhaps you can look upon this as a learning experience.

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bereft of remorse?

I’d like to think of little shits to be flushed down and never to be heard or seen again.

Learning experience, hell yes. I mustn’t let rage cloud my actions other than that, I need to take crude remarks in stride. like the saying goes, “stick and stones may break your bones, but names will never hurt me”. I need to live this a lot better. Acting more mature in immature events. And to make sure I act less like a neanderthal in a shit world we live in…

oh and that guy holding the door remark earlier, he left the gate area and was getting the little shit’s girlfriend/sister, I think. I wasn’t paying attention to the other shits that were around, just keeping a glaring eye and a sailor’s mouth on the little shit that said “chink”.

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HAHAHAH omg matt says he never says vinegar in public, and then this gem :"that it is “nippy” outside and another said “I chink so”

OH i am DYYYYYYIN here!

Look buddy, now all you did was teach this kids that ‘chinks’ are psycho violent freaks.

But its more likely that some tough looking teens muttered something rhyming with ‘ink’ as you passed and you fumed about it as you walked your little toto dog home and then fantasized the whole thing.

This gives it away:
There were in fact some other passersby that heard the comment as well. They didn’t want to intrude on my rage but they did stand by and make sure nothing got out of hand.

Why? were they afraid the 12 yr old kid and his sister were gonna kick your ass?

That would make a MUCH funnier thread!

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sorry kellibelli but I’d react the same way with tough looking teens as well. This is a true story, if you don’t want to believe then it’s fine by me, but saying that it is fabricated and dreamt up is just farce.

There were 5 kids that were present, 5 teens wouldn’t scare me either. 5 Adults would know better. It doesn’t matter who they were. The 2 other people to witness the whole thing were on the other side of the road, within earshot, both adults and both walking their cocker spaniel. The parkette neighbourhood knows me better than the kids. I’ve been living in the neighbourhood for nearly 20 years.

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Please also keep in mind that in some places, if you were shot and killed by someone because you acted physically aggressive and they thought they were in danger, they would be utterly, completely, legally justified.

Now wouldn’t that be a bitch?

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Wait. You have me lost here.

If he was originally on the other side of the gate pushing to get out because his friends were holding it closed, did he then go out of the gate and you go inside before you slammed it open? The Perry Mason in me doesn’t comprehend this. Doesn’t make sense.

It may or may not be true, I am leaning toward a Freak Freely bullshit story but really I don’t care because either way makes you a liar or a fucking asshole.

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Sorry, I meant to post this too:

Keep a lid on that temper, because TaeKwonDo or not, moral high ground or not, somebody, somewhere is going to make you pay for it. You can bet on it. Unfettered rage is a grand way to get somebody dead.

Actions have consequences, and one thing you should have learned from self-defense classes is that a potential consequence of any physical confrontation is that somebody ends up dead. That could be you when the punk kid pulls out a shiv and punctures your aorta, or it could be him when he stumbles over the rock, missteps, and fractures his skull on the pavement.

Shame on you. You’ll note that in both the above scenarios, because you were the aggressor, the deaths would be YOUR fault.

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I’m not the liar but the fucking asshole…

He moved out of the way when I was trying to enter, therefore, the 2 kids inside, the one little shit and some other kid were inside. I opened the door and hit the little shit, the little shit reeled back onto a rock ledge onto a grassy higher ground. The door holder left the scene i think or stood outside, he wasn’t inside with me and the other two. The gate opens towards the inside of the parkette so the swinging action led to the contact, his falling on the grassy higher ground was a bumble on his part, he was trying to get away from my dog that was riled up.

Actions do have consequences, the potential for death for physical confrontations is there, but this was not physical, I didnot grab him nor did I flail a punch or kick. In this instance though death was not really a factor, this wasn’t really a physical battle, no one had their dukes up or no one was preparing to swarm me.

shame on me for being a hot-head, yes unfettered rage is something that needs to be held in check. I need to take some anger management courses or something.

Anyone suggest something that I can do to keep the rage in check?