I noticed I still have some time left, Tomndeb

I believe that you are referring to the following exchange:

Valteron: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7942137#post7942137

tomndebb: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7943848#post7943848

Valteron: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7946592#post7946592

Valteron: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7946984#post7946984

tomndebb: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7946994#post7946994

Valteron: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7947035#post7947035

tomndebb: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7947084#post7947084

Please re-read that exchange. Note that my initial challenge was to your claim regarding masturbation and mortal sin and made no mention of homosexuality, at all. Note that I freely acknowledged that your posted opinion was, indeed, taught by different teachers–particularly several decades ago when you studied–and I only pointed out that what they taught was not actually doctrine. (At which point homosexuality was not even part of the discussion.)

Following that exchange, you called me naive, defended yourself against names I had never called you, and went off on a tanget regarding abuse by a priest and your disagreements with RCC doctrine. At no time did I challenge that you had been taught specific ideas. At no time did I defend the actions of the abusive priest. At no time did I make any observation about the RCC’s teachings regarding homosexuality.

You made a couple erroneous statements regarding RCC doctrine about mortal sin in connection with masturbation and death without confession. I corrected those points (placing the blame for your errors on your teachers). You then spent several more posts making impassioned condemnations regarding the RCC and attempting to insult me and drag me into your condemnations.

It is hardly weaseling for me to stick to the single topic I had addressed in my first post while you try to hijack the thread.

Have a good life.

Could manhattan say “fuck” in GQ?
Fuck yeah, he could!

::shakes fist::

Damn you Tom and your reasoned debate… Damn You!!!

Threatening with banning for posting in the wrong forum? Luxury! We would have WISHED to be threatened with banning, we would have thought ourselves kings! Back in my day the mods would ban the lot of us before breakfast–if we had a breakfast–and we were thankful we didn’t get worse!

But if you tell that to the kids today, they won’t believe you.

Let’s look at the evidence so far:

So Valteron starts a Pit thread with no evidence and is comprehensively refuted.
:rolleyes:

It’s clearly not a subtext, just a fact.

Valteron, here’s your chance to improve the quality of the SDMB. (Clue: It involves you not using your remaining credit! :stuck_out_tongue: )

Ah, but if there is no god which may well be true since the existence of one or more gods cannot be proven, then there is no god which will kill a kitten if tomndebb frowns, therefore tomndebb may frown as much as he likes or as much as Debb is willing to tolerate.

Not using any vitriol doesn’t negate the fact that I got the feeling that he’s gearing up for a flame-out. The whole thing about him being gone soon, but using his final weeks… blah-blittely-blah.

Stay tuned for harsher language as the end date nears.

Sounds to me like this is just the “throwing down the gloves” post, we’ll have to wait and see what follows, won’t we?

Anywho, maybe not “suicide-by-admin”, but a “hey I noticed my account is about to expire so let me go out in a flaming trainwreck” thread with a relatively polite OP?

CMC fnord!

Yeah, that’s certainly a possibility, but I suppose we’ll see.

God, I miss banhattan. GQ has gone to hell in a handbasket since he left.

Well fiddlesticks. I figured since I didn’t go blind and my palms aren’t hairy I was off scot free.

It is hardly weaseling for me to stick to the single topic I had addressed in my first post while you try to hijack the thread.

Have a good life.
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Once again, Tom, your arguments APPEAR rational and distinterested, but they inevitably are designed to indirectly and by implication bolster the viewpoint that the Catholic Church is not authoritarian and is somehow a wonderful haven for love and liberation. I realize that this is not what you have said in so many words, but in almost a year of exchanges with you, your opinions in this sense come though pretty clearly, if one reads between the lines.

In other words, Tom, you are every bit as opinionated as I am. But you have a gift (which I frankly envy) of making your arguments sound like sweet reason.

So why should I make your life any easier by not rejoining SDMB? (I know, I know Tom, as you so clearly expressed in another posting a few weeks ago, wiping up my errors of logic and argument is a minor irritation only, kind of like wiping up the wet footprints of someone who tracks snow into your house. “Can you say ‘haughty, condescending analogy’ boys and girls?”)

But for what it is worth, I will resubscribe, stick around and express the truth until you ban me. So what if I am out a few $$$. It is worth it.

Now it’s your turn, Tom, to reply with a condescending and oh-so-superior reply about how you don’t give a rat’s ass what I do. Such fun! :smiley:

As others have already said, you don’t get banned here for arguing with mods or for pitting mods. But if the worst you can say of tomndebb is that he sounds sweet and reasonable, and is so convincing in his arguments because of that – well, you might as well have put this in MPSIMS.

HA! Upstart newbies like yourself had it easy. Back in my day we had mods pitting mods and then admin banning them!

See Melin for details.

Maybe you should read the lines instead. Reading between them can make you all cross-eyed and crazy.

You don’t need to promise to troll, Valteron. You were an idiot from the beginning. Here’s hoping you hasten your departure with pronouncements like this one.

I don’t think it’s so much he makes it sound like sweet reason, it’s that you make it sound like your one of those people that wanders down the street talking to themselves wearing 8 coats in the summertime.

Just my humble opinion.

Man, leads me to wonder who is more in need of a life, the guy who posted this crap, or the idiot who is continuing to read this thread.

Well, there’s only one of those people I have any control over…

On my first cursory read of the forum’s thread titles, I thought this said “I still have some teeth left,” as though it were some sort of oblique reference to having been smacked around and thoroughly bloodied in some confrontation or other, but he’s not yet satisfied so he’s issuing an invitation to take a crack at the remaining incisors and bicuspids. And, naturally, the first thought that comes to mind when Valteron claims to have no teeth is to respond: “Blow me.”

But, of course, I realized almost immediately that I wouldn’t be able to share this bon mot, because I had misread the title. It doesn’t say “teeth.” It says “I have some time left.”

So now I’m ticked.

And I’m tocked.

Get it? Time. Ticked. Tocked. Okay, worst joke in history…