Yep, pretty much.
(What, I can’t agree with Shodan?)
Anybody care to find a link and count them?
Of course. That’s the hallmark of a good conspiracy theory – a plan so crazy it might actually work.
Just because he was old, fat, drunk, and disease-ridden doesn’t mean he wasn’t taken on a long drive out to the country to live on a farm. In fact, because he was halfway there already his death seems less suspicious. If he lingered on another 12 - 18 months, eventually too weak / sick / out of it to do anything constructive, he would’ve been no use whatsoever to the cause. And by that time the healthcare debate would’ve been lost, in part becasue one of its most ardent and adept supporters was completely absent from the process.
But not now! I mean… he was going to die anyway, and soon, so why just let him fade away to uselessness? If they strike him down he shall become more powerful than they could possibly imagine. And both his brothers got it, under suspicious circumstances, Ted’d be the trifecta!
(Damn, when I started writing this I was completely jack-ass joking. But the more I get into it the more plausible it sounds. Maybe I should write fiction for a living. I do actually believe that he died of natural causes, namely being old, fat, drunk, and disease-ridden, but as conspiracy theories go I think this is a good one.)
I can think of 4 good things to say about Teddy:
He was only expelled from Harvard for cheating on a Spanish exam once.
While Teddy was in the Army and stationed in Paris, nobody invaded.
His brother Jack lost a naval craft (PT-109) but Ted only lost a 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 in action.
Ted had only 1 marriage annulled.
You forgot some.
He often kept his pants on.
He didn’t sexually harass all the waitresses he met.
Regards,
Shodan
I purposely chose to leave some of his good acts for others to note, as you did.
He also provided a fresh opportunity to flush out the Board’s slaves to a retarded ideology. The good news is that there aren’t as many as I’d feared. The bad news is you’re no smarter than the rest of the drooling goons.
If only everyone were smart enough to be a liberal right?
The world needs ditch-diggers too.
And AM talk radio hosts.
Hey, YOU’RE the one saying a single mistake should have been harshly punished, not me.
Good point. I guess I the grammar police should put me in grammar prison.
What’s worse is I left a word out of the post you quoted, so it came out as more broken English than the first one.
By republican standards he would be a saint. Stanford, Vitter and the rest of the hypocrites are still ensconced in their republican fortress.
I’ll see your Stanford & Vitter and raise you (drumroll) a Clinton, Bill.
But this is about Teddy, you didn’t dispute the factuality of my 4 items, nor did you say anything good about him.
Well, the next time a prominent Republican dies, get off your fat lazy ass and pit the people who are celebrating. Maybe its just easiler to whine about how victimized you are than actually, y’know, doing something about it, but then you’d have to give up all that Jesusy-martyr bullshit that frankly comprises the bulk of your political commentary these days because you and your ilk are otherwise completely devoid of anything resembling a useful or inspiring idea, preferring instead to cling to an imagined past where people you don’t like knew their place and all was right with the world. Well TOO FUCKING BAD, you lost and you’ll continue to lose as societies no longer feel the need to cling to the superstitions of the past. Evolution’s real and you’re the fucking dinosaur, pal.
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The Sorrow and the Pittee.
Since I’m just a kiddo and don’t feel like I should be beholden to the political context of an age 40 years prior, I’ve got no real opinions, problems, or adoration for Ted. I didn’t grow up with the name Kennedy ringing in my ear, so I never really saw a need to follow him. He was a senator from a state I never lived in.
For that, I’ve been trying to avoid these Ted threads both because I don’t care about and don’t fully understand the situation.
Then I sawthis thread in Cafe Society regarding a cartoon about his death. I figured I’d give it a go, since there’s no politicized zombiespeak in CS and because cartoons are usually cool (Seen the one about the sassy orange cat with black stripes? Heathfield?).
It was a mistake.
Christ, I really don’t understand the sentiment of the anti-Ted crowd, or what it is that they want. When I tried to explain that I don’t understand what the cartoon is saying, that somehow the press is “ignoring” and event 40 years ago when talking about a man with 50 years in the senate, they KERSPLODED on me with lots of words that don’t make sense when lined up in a row.
Yes, I understand that whatever the hell happened in that car in the water, he probably did something very bad. I understand that in 1969 it was either talk about that, Neil Armstrong, or pushing wooden hoops down a dirt road with a stick, so anybody alive back then has probably got an OJ-sized area carved out in their memory of that event.
What I DON’T understand is what these people expect. It’s like they think that the news should have been, “Senator Ted Kennedy, who killed a woman in Chapstickaquiddik 40 years ago and has done nothing notable since, has died today. Finally, the family of that Mary Jo woman can rest knowing their daughter’s killer has been found and put to justice by brain cancer.”
Seriously. I don’t get it. At all.
I can totally understand not liking the guy, or even hating the guy, but I can’t understand expecting coverage of a beloved public figure to give equal time to a mistake* 4 decades ago.
What bothers me is that they can’t even express that. All they can do is draw pictures of Mary Jo’s grave next to Kennedy’s, and the press felating the corpse of Kennedy. That’s a soup of concepts, but no clear idea.
I wish one of these people would tell me exactly what they want.
The feeling I get is that what they want is for people to stop saying ANYTHING nice about Kennedy, because in their minds, the only thing about his life is that woman.
It would be like in 30 or so years when Bill Clinton dies, and the press mourns him and his presidency and his charity work and his books and his family legacy and him getting those reporters back from North Korea, the republicans (in whatever form they exist in 30 years) will be complaining that the media is COMPLETELY IGNORING the fact that he got a beej in his office in the 90s.
*Predicted conservative response: “Mistake? MISTAKE? HE KILLED A WOMAN!!!”
See, by no means am I a conservative. But this is my response. This has absolutely nothing to do with politics.
He took another human being’s life. It doesn’t matter that it was 40 years ago, because it isn’t just about what he did. It’s about the fact that he never paid for it, and he never took responsibility. He just walked away like nothing happened, in more ways than one.
If he had taken responsibility, spent a few years in prison, and came out and rebuilt his life, it would had been completely different. Instead, he remained a US Senator.
What did I expect from the press? Exactly what they did. What would I have liked for them to do? Never let him get away with it in the first place.
ETA: Are you seriously comparing Clinton getting head from an intern to Kennedy walking away while a woman drowned in his car?
Is that what you usually call it when someone has a car accident?
If it was their fault. If they walked away and left someone to die in the wreckage, without even calling the police or paramedics.