From that thread,
For years, @DrDeth has been cleverly writing these posts to make it appear as if his father were a key insider. Previously, until I forced the issue, his claim was the his father was on “Doug’s” staff, implying a staff officer. Then he claimed that his father once typed a memo for a high ranking officer. Yea!!! That’s why is father had the inside scoop on the real reason MacArthur inexplicably panicked on December 8th, and it was all a secret plan by Roosevelt, something that all the NCOs would know but the generals on the staff would be kept in the dark.
Here, though he’s overplayed his hand, because bullshitters will be bullshitters.
To prove that this fictional father was a super patriot, it wasn’t enough that he was in the army in the Philippines on December 8th! No! He had to be a civilian who volunteered! But how do you get him there? Oh! A civilian aircraft crewmember! Of course, once we established that his as an NCO, then we have to get him out of the Philippines before it fell so let’s give him malaria! But since bullshitters must be bullshitters, no only does he go to Australia, but back home!! Then he’s so special, he gets recalled!!! But to make it seem a little less problematic, let’s put some qualifiers in!
It’s all fucking stolen valor. Asshole! There were so many damn good men who bravely died in that conflict but you (and you are reading this) are going to steal some of their bravery so you look better and allow you to “win” meaningless arguments on the internet. Pathetic nobody.
Look at all the problems with it. The story has to be miraculous, so he arrives on the very day of the attack! BS. Not a day before, not a day later.
Why Boeing? Why the fuck were they flying planes are the world? Not an airline, but the manufacture? He was aircrew, but not needed for the plane? They let him just run off and join the army? How the fuck does he join the army in the Philippines? Why would they take him without training? They weren’t that desperate for men, especially untrained men.
The most absurd line was the he “was invalided to Australia then home before the Philippines fell”? How? This is when Japan controlled the skies and seas and the Navy was using any desperate method of trying to resupply them, including attempting to outfit subs. New, untrained recruits (if the absurd story were to be believed) gets one of the million dollar tickets out of there on a sub, jumping to the head of the queue ahead of general officers because he’s a superhero, I suppose. In reality, the sick sadly were left to die.
Sick personnel were simply not getting transported of the Philippines in the first couple of chaotic weeks of the war and no one was get transported after that. The whole situation was going to hell. It was war, it was hell, they were getting bombed, enough ships were getting sunk that they completely stopped even attempting to use surface ships, they were trying to figure out how to save the country and some new, untrained civilian recruit gets a ticket out of there? MacArthur had to flee by PT boat in the dead of night avoiding Japanese warships. So how did a raw recruit snag a spot? (even if recruits were being accepted?)
In '41 and '42, they were desperate for trained aircrew and would have steered this hypothetical father into that. Why would he have been make into an errand boy instead? And why would a new, untrained recruit be assigned to HQ? He wouldn’t know shit about the military and now he’s suddenly working for the big bosses?
The story is impossible, but let’s just pretend that MacArthur personally ordered an extra PT boat and rather then allow some of the nurses to escape (which they where actually trying to do) the sick, untrained, raw recruit bumps general officers to out of there. At most, he would have been working for a few weeks or a month. Not only does he get to the safety of Australia, but then he gets a trip back to the States!!! Why? In early 1942? How?
Then, this super hero goes back to the States, and someone damn high up in the army (but not MacArthur!) personally orders an untrained civilian recruit who has been underfoot for 14 days in one of the worse disasters in the history of the US military to be tracked down and ordered back to be a pool typist and driver!!! Because none of the other 8 million recruits would do?
For the dangerous flight from the Philippines by PT boat at night, only 13 staff members from Corregidor were allowed to escape with MacArthur and these were knows as the “Bataan Gang” and formed the nucleus of General Headquarters (GHQ) Southwest Pacific Area.
It’s this clever wording that he (the imaginary father) didn’t consider himself part of the Bataan Gang, as if he had a right to that title or that others would consider him to be part of that.
It’s stolen valor and used in the most pathetic way imaginable, to win stupid arguments on the net. For fuck’s sake.
Then he accuses someone else of lying! The irony.